1158: The Science Behind Why People Quit with Dr. Anthony Klotz
How to Be Awesome at Your Job
How to be Awesome at Your Job
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🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Anthony Klotz discusses how to manage the big and small moments that make us question our next career moves.
— YOU’LL LEARN —
1) How the pandemic fundamentally altered our relationship with work
2) Why doing nothing is often your best solution
3) How to find more satisfaction in a job you’re stuck in
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— ABOUT ANTHONY —
Dr. Anthony Klotz is a professor of organizational behavior at the UCL School of Management in London. Known for predicting a global labor shift and dubbing it the Great Resignation, Klotz writes for Harvard Business Review and The Wall Street Journal, and his research is regularly published in leading management journals. He has discussed the current and future state of work with media outlets, including The New York Times, BBC, and CNN, and with executive teams at Fortune 100 firms.
• Book: Jolted: Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters
• Email: a.klotz@ucl.ac.uk
• LinkedIn: Anthony Klotz
• Website: AnthonyKlotz.com
— RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW —
• Study: “Employee theft as a reaction to underpayment inequity: The hidden cost of pay cuts.” by J. Greenberg
• Book: Asking: A 59-Minute Guide to Everything Board Members, Volunteers, and Staff Must Know to Secure the Gift by Jerold Panas
• Book: Unreasonable Hospitality: The Remarkable Power of Giving People More Than They Expect by Will Guidara
• Book: The Log from the Sea of Cortez by John Steinbeck
• Past episode: 346: Seizing Career Opportunities with AstroLabs’ Muhammed Mekki
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| 0:00.0 | Nowadays, we're in a position to take action right away and make career changes that we may end up regretting. |
| 0:16.3 | And let's face it, the research is clear that almost the majority of career moves end in some |
| 0:21.3 | form of regret, not complete regret, but some form of regret. |
| 0:24.6 | And so understanding these jolts and how to respond to them at an appropriate level, I think, |
| 0:28.7 | is critical for staying level-headed in our day-to-day work lives and to also be really |
| 0:34.8 | intentional about crafting a career that brings us what we want. |
| 0:44.9 | That's Dr. Anthony Klotz. |
| 0:46.7 | He's a professor of organizational behavior who's known for, among other things, |
| 0:50.4 | predicting the global labor shift we call the great resignation. His research is regularly |
| 0:55.8 | published in leading management journals, and he's recently published his book jolted why we |
| 1:00.6 | quit, when to stay, and why it matters. You'll learn one, how the pandemic fundamentally altered |
| 1:06.6 | our relationship with work. Two, why doing nothing is often your best solution. |
| 1:11.7 | And three, how to find more satisfaction in a job you're stuck with. |
| 1:16.2 | And if you want to summary right up with the actionable wisdom that Anthony shares, |
| 1:19.7 | you can find that over at awesomeatyourjob.com. |
| 1:23.0 | The Gold Nuggets, free email newsletters is what we call it there. |
| 1:26.6 | I'm Vietkitis. |
| 1:28.3 | This is How to Be Awesome at your job. Now, here's Anthony. Anthony, welcome. Thanks for having me. Well, I'm excited to chat |
| 1:38.8 | with you. You are undercover famous. Is that maybe the term we can use? Yeah, it's definitely under undercover, |
| 1:47.2 | low key, yeah, whatever synonym you want to use. Yeah, you are the man who coined the term, |
| 1:53.5 | the great resignation, which is kind of wild. Yeah, I mean, it still strikes me as wild, |
| 1:59.0 | and we're coming up on almost exactly five years since that initial article came out and went viral, and it still strikes me as strange and surreal. |
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