What is Christianity?

And you and I can recognize each other. I would say you're my fellow Christian, but I would say we have a different vision of where we set the boundaries. I don't think it happened. That's my issue is I don't think it is true. Criticizing us for disagreement, but you have disagreement too. It's just oriented in a different direction. That's a fair critique. I've always said the best argument against Protestantisms,

I think, is disunity, and I think is the fragmentation impulse. But, you know, so if someone were to say,

well, why don't you think that's like a decisive knockdown objection? I think one thing I'd observe is, I don't know that I see in the other direction the solution.

Huh.

Yeah. see in the other direction the solution.

Welcome everyone to the Council of Trent.

My guest today is someone I have crossed paths with many times in person and online and videos.

He is Gavin Ortland, the host of Truth Unites.

He engages in a wide array of apologetics content.

And I'm just really jazzed you're here. Gavin, welcome the council Trent. Fun to be here,

glad to be in person together. Looking forward to this. I know. You already had a treat. I'm glad you're able to come visit me here in Dallas because I was able to at least restore one of the things you lost

after leaving California got to have in and out.

One of the big grievances of leaving California. So in and out has come to Tennessee,

but I think I mentioned to you, there was like a three hour wait, the first day that it opened

because it was such a craze to go. So I still haven't been since it's there. So this is the first

time I've had it in years. I think I've found now in doing debates in a lot of places, I think it truly

has a ecumenical power to it. I have not seen in any other establishment. I've seen so many

pictures of people doing theological debates and they end up together. Exactly. I think the last time I was there in and out, I was there with a Presbyterian, a Baptist, a

Muslim, all a bunch of people from the TGT, the Gospel Truth Conference.

So we're able to do that here.

We'll take the ecumenical progress however we can get it.

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