5, 4, 4, 3, 2, 1, Yaha and we're live, my good friend Doug Duren.

Hello, Douglas.

Hello, Joe Rogan, good to see you as a whole man.

And Brian Richards, your friend, a wildlife biologist.

And well, we're going to talk about a bunch of things.

But one of the things that I wanted to talk about is this scary disease that well when Ted Nugent was on the

podcast he downplayed the consequences and effects of something called

CWD or chronic wasting disease

which has made it on to your farm.

And you live in Wisconsin and you have this beautiful place

that we visited when we did the mediator television show and this is a new thing that this chronic wasting

disease was just it decimates the deer's health and kills them and the suspicion is that some of this at least comes from these

high fence operations where people grow deer and treat them like instead of like a wild animal they treat them

like a domesticated animal and have them all feeding off of the same pile of food and

they share this disease is this all correct and accurate

Brian well you just started out about an hour's worth of conversation so yeah just a little bit I'm a I'm a wildlife biologist with the National

Wildlife Health Center US Geological Survey up in Madison, Wisconsin and so one of the

things that I spend a lot of time on is chronic wasting disease.

I wouldn't say that makes me necessarily an expert, but I've gotten to know a lot of people that I would call experts over the years.

So I've gained a little bit of knowledge. So I don't even,

your statement there, we could start a number of different places. This disease

it essentially, well describe what it does to these animals and why it's such of major

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