The people came in to Israel on October 7th, what they saw in front of them was an enemy that

is not individuals, that are not humans.

You know, it's horrific.

And then our response as a society is saying, we're not going to see them as human.

Like we've tried this so many times.

And it's failed every single time, and we know it's going to fail this time.

And nobody has a plan.

And yet, that's where we're at.

Hey, listeners, it's Mishi.

One of the people who influenced me most in life was my grandmother, my Safda, Zena.

She lived across the street from us and reached the ripe old age of 99, so in a very real

way she was always there and shaped the person I am today.

My grandparents met in the early 30s, in England, at a formal

intercollegiate debate. On one side of that debate was my grandfather, Abe, who was the head

of the Zionist Student Union at Oxford, and on the other was my grandmother, who was the head

of the non-Zionist Student Union at the London School of

Economics. She was a non-Zionist, not because she had any particular beef with the idea of a

Jewish homeland, but because, like many progressives in England at the time, she was an

internationalist and didn't really believe in the concept of nation-states. I'm not sure who technically won that particular exchange of ideas,

but suffice to say that several years later,

my Softa followed my sabbate Jerusalem and spent her entire life representing

and working in the service of the Jewish state.

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