115: The Premonition with Michael Lewis & Dr. Charity Dean
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🗓️ 17 March 2022
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by New York Times bestselling author Michael Lewis and the Co-Founder and CEO of Public Health Company Dr. Charity Dean to discuss where our nation is with COVID-19 two years after the first lockdown and about one year after Lewis wrote his latest book, The Premonition. They also examine how systems break down, in health systems and otherwise, and ask the question as to why the pandemic hasn’t been enough to unite our country and how our country hasn’t been truly united by a common cause in quite some time. Be sure to pick up The Premonition at your favorite book retailer.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone. As we get deeper into 2022, it is time for all of us to do our part, to save |
| 0:06.5 | democracy and to show that America can and will stay on that arc of bending history towards justice. |
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| 0:39.9 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reid Gailan. Today, I'm joined once again |
| 0:45.9 | by Dr. Charity D, CEO, co-founder and chairman of the Public Health Company. Prior to founding the |
| 0:51.6 | Public Health Company, Dr. Dean served as the assistant director for the California Department |
| 0:55.9 | of Public Health and was a key member of the executive team directing the COVID-19 outbreak response. |
| 1:01.6 | She is also prominently featured in Michael Lewis's recent book, The Promenician. |
| 1:06.6 | Speaking of Mr. Lewis, Michael is my other guest on the show today. |
| 1:10.4 | Michael is a New York Times best-selling author who has written a wide array of books on various |
| 1:14.2 | subjects. Recent books include The Big Short, Flash Boys, The End Doing Project, The Fifth Risk, |
| 1:20.0 | and The aforementioned The Promenician. Of course, we should not forget the one that started |
| 1:24.0 | them all, Liars Poker. Michael is also a columnist for Bloomberg View and a contributing writer for |
| 1:29.7 | Audible. His articles have appeared in Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, Slate, Sports Illustrated, |
| 1:35.0 | Foreign Affairs and many other outlets. Michael, Charity, welcome to the show. Happy to be here. |
| 1:40.4 | Pleasure to be with you. So I want to talk about a couple of things, but I want to start with how |
| 1:45.1 | you two met as we're now approaching, you know, at least from my perspective, the two-year anniversary |
| 1:50.7 | from what I consider sort of the lockdown, right? When Americans writ large, realized something very |
| 1:55.6 | bad was upon us. And so things completely shut down. Now we're hearing not the word pandemic, |
| 2:01.7 | but endemic thrown around. Mass mandates across localities are being drastically cut back. |
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