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All right, welcome back to another episode of Mormon Expression. I'm your host, John Larson.

And tonight we're doing a follow-up on a podcast we had a few weeks ago, episode number 25,

where we talked about the fowler stages of faith. We brought back some of the

illustrious panelists from that discussion and added one more. First of all, we have Brian.

Yeah, hi. This is Brian. I participated in that previous panel. I thought it was a really good

discussion and kind of looked forward to digging into some additional information, a little deeper

into this stage five concept as it regards to faith. Just to reintroduce myself, I'm an active member

of the church. Got a church every week, did the whole Mormon experience, mission, married in the

temple, all that stuff, have gone through various periods of inactivity and periods of doubt,

but pretty, pretty happy and content at this point in my life. Great. Also returning, we have Logan.

Hi, this is Logan. Back from the last episode, ready to rock again. I guess I'll introduce myself

again for other people. I grew up a year ago. I stopped attending church regularly,

became disillusioned or disaffected. At the same time, I've got mixed feelings about the church,

some fondness, some things that keep me away still. I'm really happy to be in a conversation like

this. Great. Also joining us for the conversation tonight is the one and only John DeLynn.

Hey, I'm John DeLynn. I am a psychology PhD student at Utah State University. I used to run

a blog in a podcast a while back and I'm active in the church, but probably quite an orthodox

in my beliefs, but pretty orthodox in my adherence to the rules and commandments of the church.

Great. Thanks again for y'all coming on. When we did the conversation last time,

we sort of did an academic coverage of all the fallar stages of faith from zero to six,

I think, six is the top. I think we agreed in that discussion, in some discussions,

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