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The Economics of Everyday Things

115. Miniature Golf

The Economics of Everyday Things

Freakonomics Network

Business

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

How much does it cost to design and build a mini-golf course? And what’s it like to run one? Zachary Crockett putts things in perspective.

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you take a drive through the coastal town of Carolina Beach in North Carolina,

0:07.0

you'll see a lot of familiar businesses.

0:10.0

There's a Walgreens, a CVS, a Dollar General.

0:15.0

But if you pay attention, you might also catch a glimpse of a 15-foot-wide animatronic octopus wriggling its tentacles in the distance.

0:25.6

I mean, it was about 20 grand for that, but it's a wow factor.

0:29.6

I want my kids to be able to say their dad owns an octopus.

0:32.2

You know what I mean?

0:32.8

Like, who doesn't want to do that, right?

0:35.3

That's Mike Matzinger.

0:37.4

He and his wife are the owners of Surf's Up, the mini-golf course where that octopus lives.

0:43.0

The concept is that you're kind of surfing the whole time.

0:45.9

As you go through each hole, we have write-ups about that hole that give you the conditions for surfing that day.

0:54.2

It might say the current's pulling strong left today.

0:57.3

Be careful you might wind up in the rocks.

0:59.6

We have a 1974 redone VW bug with surfboards on top of it.

1:05.3

We have five ponds that we've got a 15-foot-tall waterfall.

1:10.4

Like many mini-golf courses, surfs up has 18 holes.

1:15.3

It takes around an hour for a family of four to reach the final obstacle.

1:19.5

In the center of the hole, there is this mound, and there's rocks all along the mound on either side.

1:25.6

And if you hit it up and you leave it a little short of the peak of the mound,

1:29.9

you roll down to the right into the water.

1:32.5

The people that get most upset about it are the good golfers.

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