Hey, you guys. Guess who I'm here with today? My buddy who I've never met, but I feel like I have.

Senior producer from the Jenny McCarthy show, David I tell. Hey, David.

Aaron, hello. I feel so proud that I finally have you on my show.

I've been meaning to have you forever, never, never. And the only reason I have a damn show is because you plucked me out of

obscurity to start coming on the Jenny McCarthy show. What two years ago now, something like that.

Well, this is, I mean, I don't know if I can. We'll say this. You were shining star and the right opportunity presented itself. And so, yes, I did. Yeah, that's what we'll say about that.

It all came together. And I feel like you're the family I was missing the whole time. And I just I'm so glad to know all of you. You Michelle and Jenny and Nicole now too.

The newest member who is so into 90 day fiancee, it just makes me happy all over. You know, you are affecting our lives in the greatest way. And it was just meant to be.

And it could very well be that you are half McCarthy or Targaryen. And you belong in our clan. I totally believe that. And speaking of Targaryens, you guys don't groan, but we are talking Game of Thrones because David and I are both nerding out big time.

In the best way possible about Game of Thrones, we also are mutually obsessed with Star Wars and just outing ourselves right now to everyone.

A large portion of my listeners are watching Game of Thrones. A few of them are speaking up, but I haven't posted a whole lot about it on social media because I really wanted to save it for like one conversation. And now that the entire thing is over, which I still can't believe.

I said, I asked David, would you just like have one conversation with me about what the hell happened? What went on? What we think? I mean, we're never going to be able to do this in under 20 hours. Let's just like hit the big stuff.

So, Fer, can I ask you first about you are a reader of the books or like a partial reader of the books or what's your history with this?

Partial reader. So I read the first one and I started to read the second one and then I found it easier because of commuting to work. I thought, oh, I'll listen to the books on tape and that will help me catch up and get to know more.

But then I found myself listening to the same chapter over and over and getting caught in a weird time loop where I would hear the same things repeatedly. So then I just figured I'll just watch the show.

So, big thing, like after season one, I kind of dove into it. I didn't get into like online message boards, theories, any of that kind of stuff, just because I wanted to show to unfold without knowing too much about it. And so then when I got to the red wedding or battle of the bastards, all that stuff was new and exciting. And it wasn't anything that I was anticipating that I was waiting to see happen or how they handled it.

You didn't know anything about the red wedding before it came. Is what you say? No, I stopped reading the books before it got to that point. Yeah, I did, I did not either. I mean, I watched everything totally blindly. I did not read the books. I didn't even know the books existed. I mean, I got into everything retrospectively. It's like I started the first time we ever saw some a husband Bruce and I saw the ad for Game of Thrones come up. Whatever, nine years ago. What is like over nine years ago. And we're like, what's that?

And we're like, what's that? He actually thought it said Game of Heronies because like the tea was like a disorder something and he's like, what's Game of Heronies? I'm like, I don't know. We're like such idiots.

And then we started watching it and I actually pieced out season two. And I like could not handle it anymore. Season two was when they were spending a lot of time at what was that broken down castle?

Heron Hall. And like, Arya was taking captive and you know, she was with Gendry for the first Gendry, whatever for the first time. And I was like, I can't handle the torture blah blah blah. I don't know what was going on.

So I didn't even come back to this series until two years ago. And then I binge it all at once. And I actually loved doing it that way.

And I would encourage anyone who hasn't watched it yet to just go ahead and binge it sometime because it's the best way to watch Game of Thrones, I think.

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