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The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily

1149: Agony's Rasp by Garous Abdolmalekian, translated by Ahmad Nadalizadeh and Idra Novey

The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily

American Public Media

Arts, Performing Arts

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2024

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Today’s poem is Agony's Rasp by Garous Abdolmalekian, translated by Ahmad Nadalizadeh and Idra Novey.


The Slowdown is your daily poetry ritual. In this episode, guest host Leslie Sainz writes… “Today’s poem simultaneously inhabits the planes of presence and absence, conveying the suffering of avoidance from multiple perspectives. With restraint and disorienting beauty, we are at the mercy of the dying voice, the reviving voice, and the surviving voice.”


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's slowdown producer Micah.

0:02.0

For today's guest episode, we welcome into the host chair poet and editor Leslie Signs.

0:08.0

Don't worry, Major will be back in your feeds on July 1st. I'm Leslie Signs, and this is the slowdown.

0:15.0

I'm Leslie Signs,

0:20.0

and this is the slowdown.

0:23.0

About two years ago,

0:25.0

about a little bit.

0:26.0

About two years ago, I stumbled upon the meta theory of inter subjectivity.

0:38.0

The term has slightly different definitions within philosophy, sociology, and anthropology.

0:46.0

But I'm most interested in its psychological application.

0:51.0

One of my favorite examples to pose is something we all have experience with,

0:56.0

whether we've been the perpetrator or the dupe.

1:00.0

Lying is

1:06.0

Lying is considered an intersubjective act because the liar is functioning with two conscious

1:09.0

understandings of reality.

1:11.0

What they know to be the truth, and the falsity they construct to bury or obfuscate

1:18.9

that truth.

1:21.1

More recently, I've become fixated on identifying this intersubjective act and my new poetry.

1:29.8

When is my speaker lying to themselves? When are they lying to me, the author, who they are both of and not?

1:41.2

As a kid, I was something of a pathological liar.

1:45.0

Maybe all kids are, as lying is fundamentally a tactic of control,

1:51.0

a defense mechanism.

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