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Now, that's not to dismiss that there aren't issues.

I don't want to just say there's never issues.

But I would say that the majority of the people that come into my clinic around sexual

explicit materials fall into, and I would say like 85 to 90 percent of the people who

come in are typically men, are typically the higher libido partner.

So sometimes women who are the higher libido partner and are being shamed on the spectrum

where it's really tragic.

You know, like they may look at something once a month or once every six months or maybe

they haven't looked at something for three years and also they looked at something again

and they're coming in and high levels of distress themselves and with their partners again

with these betrayal narratives, very, very much their marriages and danger of ending.

And they're considering themselves addicts and their spouses are considering themselves

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