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How to Be Awesome at Your Job

1144: Getting More of What You Want through the Art of Persuasion with Joshua Bandoch

How to Be Awesome at Your Job

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🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Joshua Bandoch reveals how to persuade better in accordance with our natural human wiring.


— YOU’LL LEARN — 

1) The major misconceptions hurting your persuasiveness

2) The six moral tastes to appeal to for more persuasiveness

3) How to get your stories to really resonate with people


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— ABOUT JOSHUA — 

Persuasion expert Joshua Bandoch has spent over a decade uncovering the secrets of persuasion. He’s mined psychology, neuroscience, economics, public policy, and history for cutting-edge techniques that work. He’s put them to use in hundreds of speeches written for senior government officials delivered to just about any audience. 

Bandoch uses and refines these persuasion techniques on a daily basis as a think tank leader, where he crafts and communicates policies on issues like poverty, social mobility, education, and the economy to politically diverse audiences, including elected officials, local and national media, and grassroots activists.

• Book: How to Get What You Want: Mastering the Art and Science of Persuasion

• LinkedIn: Joshua Bandoch

• Website: JoshuaBandoch.com


— RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW — 

• Book: The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt

• Book: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman


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0:00.0

So instead of asking, what do you think about this product?

0:12.2

What do you think about giving me a promotion, whatever it is?

0:15.0

Ask somebody how they feel about something.

0:17.0

And this generates a radically different answer.

0:20.5

Because when you say, think, okay, if the pause, bring, do this thing, feeling it just comes out.

0:31.2

That's Joshua Bandock.

0:32.9

He spent over a decade researching the secrets of persuasion, which he's used to craft and communicate

0:37.5

policies on issues such as poverty and social mobility to politically diverse audiences.

0:42.8

He's also distilled his research and findings into his newest book, How to Get What You Want,

0:48.2

mastering the art and science of persuasion.

0:51.3

So you'll learn one, the major misconceptions hurting your persuasiveness. Two, the six moral tastes to appeal to for more persuasiveness. And three, how to get your stories to really resonate with people. And if you want a quick summary write-up of the actionable wisdom that Joshua shares, I recommend you to sign up for the free gold nugget email newsletter, found it awesome at your job.com.

1:11.9

I'm Pete McItis.

1:12.9

This is How to Be Awesome at Your Job.

1:14.5

And now, here's Josh.

1:21.4

Josh, welcome.

1:22.7

It's a pleasure to be here.

1:23.9

Thank you so much.

1:24.9

Oh, thank you.

1:25.5

I'm excited to talk persuasion.

1:27.2

And can you tell us what's perhaps the most surprising and fascinating thing you've

1:31.2

discovered about persuasion from all your years of studying it? Maybe we'll start with this one,

1:36.4

which is that people think persuasion is about getting somebody to do something. And it's actually

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