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The Counsel of Trent

#1144 - A Reply to my Profane Christian Critics

The Counsel of Trent

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Religion & Spirituality

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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In this episode Trent replies to Christians that have criticized his opposition to vulgar abusive rhetoric.

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0:00.0

Last month, I replied to Andrew Wilson's criticisms of me that he made on the Patrick Bet

0:04.5

David show. And the responses from him and some of the other people I criticized in that

0:09.3

episode ranged from the unusual to the unhinged. So in today's episode, I'm going to go through

0:14.8

those responses and restate why I consider this issue so important and not just something we can

0:20.0

agree to disagree about.

0:21.6

All right, so to give you a little context, Andrew Wilson said I and Lila Rose belong to a group he calls

0:26.7

sewing circle Christians who care more about appeasing liberals by criticizing Christians who swear, for example,

0:33.6

instead of uniting with those Christians to combat degenerates.

0:36.5

But I never see him surrounded with a panel of like the worst degenerates on earth

0:42.1

debating all of their worldview simultaneously, but they have tons of criticisms for people who do.

0:47.3

But that's not my position.

0:48.6

As I made clear in my response to Andrew, I'm all in favor of doing whatever it takes to combat

0:52.9

error and evil, except for using

0:55.0

sinful methods like verbally abusing people. And to make sure I didn't misunderstand Andrew, I sent

1:00.8

him the script for my episode ahead of time, and I incorporated almost all his replies into the final

1:06.1

episode. So I was baffled when I saw him post on X afterwards that he considered my response fundamentally dishonest.

1:14.0

However, Andrew's response paled in comparison to others, especially Jay Dyer.

1:18.6

In one part of my episode, I criticized Dyer for calling Talbert Swan Tilda Swinton.

1:23.9

He wasn't being abusive, but it is annoying and silly for someone who wants to publicly defend the Christian faith on a large platform.

1:32.0

But then Dyer said on X, Trent Horn virtue signals over me calling a fake black activist bishop a fake bishop.

1:39.5

But I didn't say that. This is either a lie or an ignorant falsehood.

1:43.6

So I told Jay, I accurately pointed out your

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