1140: Nir Eyal

Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth

Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews, Doug Egge

Exercise, Health & Fitness, Health, Fitness

4.8 • 11.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2019

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Interview Nir Eyal

Making the case why technology is NOT irresistible. (3:08)
What is the definition of distraction and traction? (7:55)
Why do we do anything? Understanding the nature of human emotion. (9:06)
Technology is the tool: It’s all about how we USE IT. (11:07)
The technique of using tech against tech: #1 - Social antibodies. (19:50)
Making time for traction: Technique #2. (24:44)
Hacking back the external triggers: Technique #3. (26:29)
Preventing distraction with packs: Technique #4. (27:19)
The 3 concepts of social competence and wellbeing when it comes to our children. (28:37)
What are some things he agrees with his fellow researchers and what do they disagree on? (35:27)
Understanding what your values are and turning those into time. (38:50)
What’s the role of dopamine in the brain? (40:05)
How technology can be ADDICTIVE, but not affect everyone: The nature of addiction. (41:50)
What is his take on the future of technology? (46:10)
Why ‘filter bubbles’ is nothing new. (53:03)
The importance of having a conversation rather than fear-mongering. (56:56)

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0:00.0	If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
0:06.0	Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts.
0:09.0	Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
0:13.0	If you've been listening to Mind Pump for a little while, you've heard us talk about the issues that technology may be posing.
0:20.0	We've talked about how we think it's contributing to the distractability among kids.
0:26.0	Maybe it's a problem with ADD, maybe it's causing health issues.
0:31.0	Well, we actually had a former Stanford professor on this episode near A.L.
0:37.0	Come on, and actually debate some of these things that we thought.
0:41.0	And I'm not going to lie, he changed our minds quite a bit.
0:44.0	We can't put our minds a little bit in this episode.
0:46.0	He did. He was extremely logical. He used real data, real science.
0:51.0	And he explained how a lot of the stuff that we even we've been saying, or we've been led to believe, is alarmist.
0:57.0	And he makes a very, very compelling argument.
1:01.0	We think you're going to really enjoy this episode.
1:04.0	Now he has two books that you can read about the subject.
1:08.0	One of them is called Indistractable. The other one is called Hooked.
1:12.0	I think you can find both of them on his website indistractable.com or his other website, which is near and far.
1:19.0	He also has a great TED talk that you can see on YouTube.
1:25.0	The title of that talk is what makes some technology so habit forming.
1:30.0	And then you can also find him on Instagram at n-e-y-a-l-9-9.
1:38.0	Anyway, this episode was mind blowing. It's all about technology, how it's affecting us.
1:43.0	And if the, some of the information you've been getting may be alarmist.
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