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In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder.

Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children.

Listener discretion is advised.

Welcome to the consult. I'm Juliet Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues. Angela Serser. Susan Costler Drew.

And Bob Drew.

Angela, Susan, Bob, and I all work together in the FBI's behavioral analysis unit.

And before we get started, if you'd like early and ad-free access to our episodes, we have a Patreon Patreon and you can join at patreon.com slash the console pod.

We also have a Facebook fan page called Unsubs and it was created by fans for fans of the

consult to discuss our episodes and other true crime topics.

Now, today, we are back with part three of our series on the Missing and Murdered Women in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

And investigative reporter Susan Samples from Wood TV 8 joins us again as we look more closely at one of the

main suspects tied to this time period, long-haul trucker Gary Artman. Now Gary

Artman was convicted of the murder of Sharon Hammack, who was the last victim in this suspected series that we are looking at.

And he was also linked by DNA to the murder of Dusty Shuck out of Maryland.

Investigators also suspect that he murdered Kathleen Dennis. And Kathleen remains missing,

but based on information that he provided when he was interviewed by investigators on his deathbed,

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