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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#114 — Politics and Sanity

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2018

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris speaks with David Frum and Andrew Sullivan about the Trump presidency, hyper-partisanship, how democracies fail, immigration, the lowering life expectancy in the U.S., racism, social media, the opioid crisis, marijuana legalization, religion, what a healthy politics might look like, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Today you'll hear the audio from my event in DC with Andrew Sullivan and David From.

0:22.1

I love the event, I love the conversation, but here are the two mistakes I think I made.

0:27.9

The first is I brought politics to DC, which was a totally natural thing for me to do.

0:36.3

When I go to a city, I'm first trying to find local guests, so I was to spare people the

0:40.6

hassle of traveling, and in DC it's quite natural to think of people in politics, and having

0:48.1

speakers of the caliber of David From and Andrew Sullivan there, it was natural to grab

0:53.4

them.

0:54.6

But the reality is, if there's any city in the world that would have loved to have me

0:58.2

avoid politics altogether and talk to a physicist or a biologist, it has to be DC, and honestly

1:05.8

that hadn't occurred to me until after the fact.

1:09.3

So I should have taken David and Andrew to some of the city, and that would have made

1:13.8

much more sense for the local audience.

1:16.5

But also as you'll hear, David and Andrew are people with so much to say that I found

1:22.5

myself moderating a conversation between them largely, which again was totally natural

1:29.8

for me to do and felt fine at the time because I was interested to hear what both of them

1:36.2

had to say.

1:37.8

But in the aftermath I realized that most of the people who came out that night came to

1:43.6

see me.

1:44.6

In fact, most of the tickets to the event had sold before I had even announced who my guests

1:48.2

would be.

1:49.8

So from the perspective of someone who came out to hear me talk, that person got short

1:56.4

changed.

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