114: Meet Josefina, Mourn for Selena (from our archives)

Dolls of Our Lives

Allison Horrocks and Mary Mahoney

Society & Culture, History

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Join us as we turn to our archives to bring you one of our favorite episodes:

In episode nine, we turn our gaze to the American Southwest & the youthful, plucky Josefina Montoya. Our analysis of Josefina’s books begins with two powerful questions—first, given the place and time, is this the story of a colonial girl? Second, just how many references to Tejana queen Selena will we make per episode? While representations of imperialism in early American history are hard to unpack, over the course of this show, we’ll reveal why Meet Josefina had us reeling for still other reasons. Maybe you didn’t see how this book set in an 1820s borderland community (what’s now New Mexico) was essentially ripped from the 1990s melodrama THE PIANO.

But once you hear our take on Tia Dolores, you’ll see that’s why we’re here—note: we are also here to remind you of 90s crossover stars gone too soon.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, this is Mary. We're bringing you an episode from our archive this week.
0:04.1	This is one of our all-time favorite episodes. It's from 2019. We introduce you and ourselves
0:10.8	to one of the greatest criminal masterminds in history, Tia Dolores. Of course, it's the first
0:16.2	Josefina episode. We hope you enjoy it. I'm away for the next couple of weeks, so we will be back
0:22.7	in your feed with new episodes real soon. In the meantime, enjoy Meet Josefina.
0:30.4	Allison, I've been thinking a lot about our show, and you know, we're reaching like all new kinds
0:37.7	of listeners every week, and it's just not enough for me. Like, I really want us to get more listeners.
0:43.4	So I've been, you know, sitting with myself, you know, reading my self-help materials,
0:49.0	Red Josefina, and it actually inspired me with a business idea to help us get more listeners.
0:54.3	Oh, I can't wait to hear it. As you know, there is a goat prominently in this book,
0:59.6	and the minute I read this goat, and it's, you know, it's what I'll call spirit, generously.
1:07.7	And, you know, I connected this with some us-weeklies I've read in the past, and I feel as though
1:14.6	we could have a real business in goat yoga. Yes, I think we would have to call it,
1:22.5	like, be the goat, or be your best goat, or go on goat, to be a vocative of greatest of all time.
1:30.4	That's correct. And instead of people coming and thinking that we're going to play Anja in the
1:34.4	background, or something that's meant to be soothing, we will only be streaming past episodes of
1:40.2	this show. I like that, but I think we can also splice in some selections from the Selena film
1:46.4	starring Jennifer Lopez. If I start thinking about that movie right now, I will weep,
1:50.6	and if I start thinking about actual Selena, I will lose control. I know. I know.
1:55.9	What? As she says, like, I'll lose control tonight, no?
2:10.4	Yeah. Oh my god.
2:21.2	Yeah.
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