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It's 10.46 p.m. at the Chaz.

And you're listening to Nightcall.

Hello and welcome to Nightcall, a podcast for our dystopian reality. My name is Emily

Ashita. And with me on the other line is Molly Lambert. And joining us this week, we have our

producer, Joelle, because Tess is out. So, hey guys. Sitting in the virtual third seat.

Yes.

So we wanted to kick things off with a night email that we got from a listener regarding our,

an episode a couple weeks back.

This email is from Kathleen.

And Kathleen writes, I was really hoping you guys would address the Lana Delray conversation from a few weeks ago on this week's pod, but no dice. I've listened to the podcast from almost

the beginning, and I like it a lot, but the Lana conversation did not sit well with me at all.

I know that you, particularly Tess, said that Lana was problematic for her posts a few weeks

ago throwing black women under the bus and subsequent non-apologies. But the way the particularly Tess, said that Lana was problematic for her posts a few weeks ago, throwing

black women under the bus and subsequent non-apologies. But the way the conversation happened

made it sound like you were completely giving her a pass for this behavior and essentially

saying she's not smart enough to realize how bad she fucked up. She's 34 years old. There's truly

no excuse for her behavior, no pretending that, oh, she didn't

really mean to only call out black artists, not to mention that she dated a cop for an extended

amount of time and her name is an effort to exoticize herself. I was genuinely floored by the

conversation, especially since you've all been pretty vocal about racial justice and police

abolition since the protest started.

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