Five, four, three, two, one. Hello, Jordan Peterson. Hello, Mr. Roggen, how you doing?

Very spiffy today. Thank you, sir. This is a new look for you. you've been rocking these a lot of these big gigantic

What do you call those things these concerts that you guys are doing? What do you?

speeches? Well lectures discussions is what I think of them as, yeah.

Yeah, because I'm discussing, I mean you might think it's kind of perverse to be discussing with a 3,000 person audience, but it's not because if you pay attention to the audience,

they're constantly, and the individuals in the audience, they're constantly providing feedback.

So it's a discussion as far as I'm concerned.

Feedback in applause, laughter, sometimes they shout things out too, right?

Shuffling?

Shuffling.

Yeah, well, really what you want, if you're on track, if you're where you should be then it's dead silent

and everyone's focused and listening and so if that's not happening I mean you know there can be laughter or that kind of thing

but generally speaking you don't want to hear noise

from the audience so if you're if you're on if you're pursuing a complicated topic and

you're paying attention and I'm always looking at individual people in the audience you know in the first few rows because that's all I can see because of the lights.

I'm trying to make sure that everyone's on track with the talk and you know there's people

gesture with their face and they gesture with their eyes and they shake their head

and they nod and there's lots of things to pick up and if you're not speaking with notes you can really pay attention to the audience and then you know if you're in the dialogue and that's where everyone wants to be.

Yeah, it's an interesting thing you're doing because you have experience in doing that with lectures and

colleges and universities but now it's the general public and people just

pay to see it and you fill up these huge gigantic theaters. I mean I've seen some of the

places that you guys are doing it. You and Sam just got done doing one in

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