0:00.0	I think we just have to put our money down, sometimes literally, by supporting institutions
0:05.8	that are doing independent investigative journalism, and in some cases, depending on donations.
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0:35.4	from the Tom Hartton program, a TED Talk, The Breach, we are here on the media and the Ezra Klein show.
0:42.8	The Nation has a new issue out that is entirely themed around the media. Katrina, welcome back to the
1:00.4	back to the program here. Thank you Tom. Glad to have you with us. So tell us about the state of
1:06.5	the media. What is the broad analysis and the more detailed analysis that the Nation is making?
1:12.9	Well, let me just step back for a moment because Donald Trump released sort of a blueprint
1:17.9	that's shocked and not not much all a budget plan today. And my colleague John Nichols has a piece
1:23.5	up at TheNation.com about how the plans to ravage savage, that public broadcasting are really going
1:30.0	to hurt Trump voters. I mean, we think about public media. You think of maybe Los Angeles and
1:36.0	New York, but it's the rural communities in this country, which rely. There's a financial
1:41.1	lifeline to these stations and offering real news. So the Nation's special issue is predicated on
1:49.2	the fact that we are at a perilous moment for the media. I mean, we have a president who's calling
1:54.0	the media enemies of the people. We have structural challenges, newsrooms being hollowed out,
1:58.7	FCC commissioner trying to undermine affordable broadband, green light media consolidation,
2:04.4	gut media democracy via the net neutrality provisions. And we got to do better wherever you are with
2:13.1	respect from the Nation issue argues. We got to do better as a media covering president Donald Trump
2:19.3	than we did candidate Donald Trump because your show Thomas Spoken, you know, you spoke
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