113. The Missing and Murdered in Grand Rapids – Part 2
The Consult: Real FBI Profilers
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🗓️ 3 December 2025
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In Part 2 of our 3-part series on the missing and murdered women connected to the Division Avenue area of Grand Rapids, Michigan, we continue our discussion with Investigative Reporter Susan Samples from WOOD TV8.
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| 0:00.0 | In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder. |
| 0:08.9 | Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children. |
| 0:12.9 | Listener discretion is advised. |
| 0:28.1 | Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues. |
| 0:32.8 | Angela Serser. Susan Costler Drew. And Bob Drew. |
| 0:38.4 | Angela, Susan, Bob, and I work together in the FBI's behavioral analysis unit. |
| 0:50.6 | Today, we are going to continue our three-part series with Wood TV8 investigative reporter Susan Samples on the missing and murdered women in Grand Rapids, Michigan in the 1990s. |
| 0:57.7 | Susan has covered these cases from the beginning, And we can tend to be pretty analytical and mostly unemotional on this show. So Susan, who has not only investigated these |
| 1:09.1 | cases for all of these years and knows them well, she's also gotten to know |
| 1:14.9 | the victims family members over the years. So she really humanizes the victims and she brings |
| 1:21.0 | a real compassion to these cases. So I'm really glad that she joined us for this series. And I also have to say she's |
| 1:31.0 | been instrumental in helping us gather information that we need to do the best analysis that we |
| 1:37.2 | can in this very challenging type of investigation or investigations. Before we get started, a quick reminder about our Patreon, |
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| 2:04.2 | consult where you can discuss our episodes and other true crime topics. |
| 2:09.6 | Now, to recap, from December of 1993 through October 1996, multiple women from the Grand Rapids area went missing and many were later found to have been murdered. |
| 2:23.8 | 13 homicide victims and three women still missing. |
| 2:29.2 | And because of the sheer number of cases and the circumstances surrounding them, many believe a serial killer |
| 2:35.9 | might be responsible. The number of disappearances was unusual even for the High Crime Division |
| 2:41.4 | Avenue corridor. And the victim shared common characteristics, histories of drug use, |
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