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People I (Mostly) Admire

113. Do We Have Evidence of Alien Life?

People I (Mostly) Admire

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4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Avi Loeb is a Harvard astronomer who argues that we’ve already encountered extraterrestrial technology. His approach to the search for interstellar objects is scientific, but how plausible is his argument?

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My guest today, Avi Loeb, is a professor in and the former chair of Harvard's Astronomy

0:10.0

Department.

0:11.0

He said an extraordinary academic career, but that's not wise for making headlines.

0:16.2

He's in the news because of his claims that he has uncovered evidence of interstellar

0:20.9

objects, opening the door to the possibility that we've already been visited by intelligent

0:27.0

alien life.

0:28.5

I'm not making a wild conjecture here.

0:31.8

I'm just saying what we see in the solar system, imagine it being the case in hundreds of

0:37.2

millions of other planets that have conditions similar to the Earth, making us not unique

0:42.0

and special.

0:43.0

Just believing the mediocracy of the existence of technological civilizations.

0:48.0

That's all.

0:52.0

Welcome to People I Am Mostly Admire with Steve Levin.

0:59.0

I've spent a great deal of time studying obvious claims and I have to say it's not at

1:03.3

all obvious to me where the truth lies.

1:05.3

He's got a ton of media coverage, but most of these interviews, they only last a few minutes

1:10.0

and these are complicated issues that can't adequately be addressed in soundbites.

1:14.4

The podcast format, it provides us a luxury of time and I'm hoping we can dive into the

1:19.5

science behind the radical claims he's making.

1:23.2

You have an incredible resume, physics PhD at the age of 24, you've been spent five years

1:32.6

at Princeton's Institute for Advanced Studies, which is perhaps the best place in the world

1:37.8

to be young scientist, tendered at Harvard, chairman of the astronomy department, the founding

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