In his final conclusion that what caused the death of the Diablo Pikers was an unknown compelling force.

Yeah, this sounds like a set up of like a murder mystery movie, doesn't it?

His description is just sinister.

Hello and welcome to the best case worse case. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler

former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today,

electronicly is. Hi everybody, it's francey haigs, former state and federal prosecutor.

And Jim, our listeners may notice we are once again on different coasts. And so we were talking

to each other over that thing I'm informed is called the interwebs. Yes, the interwebs.

That's a very complicated thing. But it's great to have you electronically with me today,

francey. And are we both excited today? Oh yes. Yes, we are. And we are our listeners,

you should know, because we have a really special guest, a very close friend and colleague.

We've worked with him before on very important shows. And he's done some amazing work

in the real world and on different forms of media. And that person is Donnie Eiker. Hey Donnie,

how you doing? I'm good. I'm good. How are you guys? Good. And can you tell our listeners, Donnie,

what you do for a living? Sure. I am mainly a documentarian. And I've got quite a lot of

experience in true crime, as well as I wrote a book called Dead Mountain, the unfold true story

of the deat love past incident. It's a nonfiction book. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a

minute. I think this is a first. This is our first documentarian. And maybe even our first other

than you author. Yeah, well, maybe. But let's put it this way. Donnie is a lot easier to look at.

I'm sorry. I have to say it. Well, Donnie is a wonderful guy and we're so happy to have him here.

And we both worked with Donnie on a great show that we did together called The Case of. And

we were fortunate enough to have Donnie and his very calm and very thoughtful personality.

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