always interrupt me so i'm hoping today will be a okay day for that you get a lot of

drive bias oh yeah it's they don't care

interesting because the podcast i did the other day was i i think Oh, yeah, they don't care.

Interesting, because the podcast I did the other day was, I think the title of it,

I can't remember if I did this title or not, but it was how to make end users care.

That's a good one.

If I forgot to answer, please let me know.

That's what I said.

So everyone out there, I hit record, by the way.

I was trying to, you know, I like to try to capture as much realness as possible.

Everyone listening, we are speaking with Thomas.

Is it Gorill or Goral? I don't want to, you know.

Oh, Goral is fine.

I have this insecurity with names.

I usually always pick the wrong pronunciation because subconsciously I must not, I must know, you know.

We're going to start off with a post that you posted, which is the 10 layers of the OSI model.

I thought there were seven layers, but now we've got 10 layers.

So, I don't know, can you explain me this?

Can you explain me this? Can you explain me this?

Sure, sure.

So it's kind of interesting, right?

Because the theoretical approach is that there are seven layers.

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