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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1129: Russ Swain | The Good Mormon Who Made Bad Money

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Education, Science, Business

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

From postage stamps to diamond-dusted $20s: Former counterfeiter Russ Swain takes us inside the addictive world of artistic forgery and its moral reckoning.

What We Discuss with Russ Swain:
  • Russ Swain's counterfeiting career began with painting a postage stamp for a job application. This minor forgery later evolved into currency counterfeiting when financial troubles hit, demonstrating how small ethical compromises can cascade into major criminal activity.
  • Russ became physiologically addicted to the fear and risk of passing counterfeit bills. The constant state of alertness produced adrenaline rushes that became compelling enough to override moral concerns.
  • Russ' operation showcased remarkable ingenuity: diamond dust for texture authenticity, printed textile fibers, and UV-inhibiting suntan lotion in the ink. This demonstrated how artistic talents can be repurposed for illicit endeavors.
  • Despite financial gains, Russ paid heavily with his conscience, describing it as a "ghost" that constantly questioned his new identity. The ultimate price included divorce, church excommunication, and having to explain his crimes to his children.
  • A full-circle moment with Russ' former high school principal shows how our talents can be redirected toward positive ends when we
  • . We all have skills that can serve either harm or healing — the application remains our choice.
  • And much more...

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And I thought, okay, remember that postage stamp?

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That was clever.

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And it was thinking outside the box.

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It enables you to do more grandiose forms of stupidity.

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