#1128 Confronting Fascism in the Land of Free Speech (Throwback)
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Jay Tomlinson
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🗓️ 6 February 2026
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Original Air Date: 8-25-2017
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Show Notes
Ch. 2: ACLU Will No Longer Defend Hate Groups Protesting With Firearms - MSNBC
Ch. 3: Understanding the line between free speech and hate speech - BackStory - Air Date 8-23-17
Ch. 4: I was a prominent neo-Nazi. Ignoring white extremists is a mistake. - Vox - Air Date 4-14-17
Ch. 5: Nazis Don't Get Free Speech! - @Thom_Hartmann - Air Date 08-22-17
Ch. 6: Understanding who joins Antifa - Trumpcast from @Slate - Air Date 8-18-17
Ch. 7: How Do We Define Hate Speech? - @Thom_Hartmann - Air Date 8-21-17
Ch. 9: How not to fall for fascist rhetoric - 1943 US War Department
Voicemails
Ch. 19: Free speech absolutism - Ryan in Minneapolis, MN
Ch. 20: Free speech absolutism is bullshit - Zach from Atlanta, GA
Ch. 21: Railing against free speech would be a gift to the right - Todd from Delaware, OH
Ch. 22: Recommending Chomsky video - Elizabeth from North Carolina
Ch. 23: The Constitution is not a suicide pact - Will from Mississippi
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this throwback edition of the award-winning Best of the Left podcast, where we remember the past and just repeat it. |
| 0:10.1 | And there's no past more worth repeating than what it takes to fight off the cyclical rise of fascism every time they get brave enough to make themselves known. |
| 0:20.9 | So today we replay the episode we put together back in August 2017, immediately after the |
| 0:27.6 | Charlottesville Unite the Right rally. |
| 0:30.4 | And it focuses on the tension between the freedom of speech and those who would use that |
| 0:36.1 | freedom to legitimize their desire to |
| 0:38.9 | violently remove everyone else's freedoms. And so to look back with an eye on the present, |
| 0:44.9 | sources today include Watch It News, MSNBC, backstory, Vox, the Tom Hartman program, Slate, |
| 0:53.0 | Democracy Now, and the 1943 U.S. War Department, |
| 0:57.7 | which had some thoughts on how to not fall for fascist rhetoric. |
| 1:08.6 | The American Civil Liberties Union will no longer defend hate groups seeking to march with firearms, |
| 1:15.2 | a policy change that comes on the heels of protests by white nationalists and counter-protesters over the weekend in Virginia. |
| 1:21.5 | The newspaper quoted the ACLU's executive director saying in an interview that after violence during the Charlottesville protests, |
| 1:29.4 | judges, police chiefs, and legal groups will be required to look at the facts of any white |
| 1:34.5 | supremacy protests with a much finer comb. White nationalists stage day unite the right protest in |
| 1:40.8 | Charlottesville over plans to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee |
| 1:44.8 | from a park. A number of them carried weapons, according to witnesses and video. The ACLU's Virginia |
| 1:51.1 | branch defended the right of the white nationalists and neo-Nazis and others to rally in the |
| 1:56.9 | city that is home to the University of Virginia. For decades, the ACLU has defended rallies by such groups on the grounds that they have constitutional rights to free speech. |
| 2:26.0 | But some critics on both the left and the right say it's time for the ACLU to rethink how they defend the First Amendment. A recent op-ed in the New York Times argues, quote, sometimes standing on the wrong side of history in defense of a cause you think is right is still just standing on the wrong side of history. |
| 2:39.2 | Chuck Dodd spoke with the author of that critique, Kaysu Park. |
| 2:44.1 | Historically, we haven't achieved a democracy that protects all speech equally and freely, even if the first amendment has been applied to |
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