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The Counsel of Trent

#1127 - 3 Absurd Catholic Conspiracy Theories (REBUTTED)

The Counsel of Trent

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Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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In this episode Trent rebuts three absurd conspiracies about Catholicism. Does James 2:10 say all sins are equal? https://www.catholic.com/qa/what-does-the-bible-say-about-venial-and-mortal-sin To support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/counseloftrent [NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: https://shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources/ Be sure to keep up with our socials! https://www.tiktok.com/@counseloftrent https://www.twitter.com/counseloftrent https://www.instagram.com/counseloftrentpodcast

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0:00.0

Catholics have long been the targets of lurid conspiracy theories. In today's episode, we're going to refute three of the silliest ones,

0:07.1

starting with a recent conspiracy that's been shared on social media. Number one, the Pope John Paul II, Jeffrey Epstein Connection.

0:13.9

In the wake of the recent release of material from the Epstein files, some people claim Pope St. John Paul II was involved in Jeffrey Epstein's sex

0:21.6

trafficking and cite this picture as evidence. This ex-user writes, Jeffrey Epstein and

0:26.4

Jislane Maxwell being personally blessed by the Pope. Interesting. But a raised eyebrow does not

0:32.8

an argument make. The Pope blesses thousands of people every year, and he doesn't do a background check on

0:38.5

each of them beforehand. Other people pointed to this email from one of Epstein's assistants

0:42.9

or associates saying that Epstein lived at the Vatican with Pope John Paul II, implying that the

0:48.3

Pope knew about Epstein's activities. Now, first, people have lived with even serial killers

0:53.4

and not even known what they were doing.

0:55.3

So it's not surprising if some bad people lived in Vatican City and the Pope never knew about what they were doing.

1:00.7

But the evidence that Epstein himself lived at the Vatican is as flimsy as the evidence that Epstein unalived himself.

1:07.1

In the email from 2015, 10 years after John Paul II died, some kind of contractor says he's trying to paint columns in different styles for Epstein and writes the following.

1:16.8

He wants me to finish each column different, as when he was living with Pope John Paul II in Vatican.

1:22.2

He looked at variety of different columns captured in wars.

1:25.4

He told me that every pope demanded to have a column from every conquered country. So there is a collection of different columns captured in wars. He told me that every pope demanded to have a column from every

1:28.3

conquered country. So there is a collection of different columns in Vatican. But there is no

1:32.8

collection of columns that the pope acquired after conquering different territories. So this is probably

1:38.1

just a jumbled recollection of something a Roman tour guide told Epstein when he was in Roman 2003 when John Paul II blessed him,

1:46.9

and then he told this restoration specialist about it 10 years later.

1:51.0

Now, John Paul II does share some blame for the clergy abuse crisis and McCarrick scandal.

1:56.1

Part of this was due to the Pope having endured the Soviet occupation of Poland,

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