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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1116: Fake Foods | Skeptical Sunday

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Education, Science, Business

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

From food deserts to ultra-processed flavor deception, Jessica Wynn maps out America's nutritional divide and corporate food games on Skeptical Sunday!

Welcome to Skeptical Sunday, a special edition of The Jordan Harbinger Show where Jordan and a guest break down a topic that you may have never thought about, open things up, and debunk common misconceptions. This time around, we’re joined by Jessica Wynn!

On This Week's Skeptical Sunday, We Discuss:
  • Imagine your body as an ancient supercomputer, humming along with software that's been fine-tuned over millions of years. Then suddenly, ultra-processed foods show up like a sketchy software update, introducing code your system never evolved to handle. The result? Your internal operating system goes haywire, consuming 500 extra calories daily even when the nutritional "specs" look identical on paper.
  • Remember that Italian restaurant scene in Goodfellas? Well, the real food mafia (yes, the actual "Agromafia") is less about fancy dinners and more about fancy fraud. They're orchestrating a culinary shell game where your exotic $35 "Chilean Sea Bass" is actually $7 Costco tilapia in disguise, and your "extra virgin" olive oil might have a considerably less virtuous past.
  • That plant-based burger patty might be wearing a hemp necklace and preaching about sustainability, but underneath its eco-friendly costume lurks an ultra-processed food wolf in sheep's clothing. It's the dietary equivalent of greenwashing — solving one problem while potentially creating a lab full of new ones.
  • Picture 40 million Americans living in food deserts — urban landscapes where fresh produce is as rare as a unicorn sighting. These nutritional wastelands force folks to survive on a diet of convenience store cuisine, creating a tragic cycle where the most affordable food options are often the ones most likely to compromise health. It's a modern-day dietary dystopia.
  • Here's the silver lining, food adventurers! Think of your grocery store as a game board: The real treasures are hidden along the perimeter — that's where the fresh produce, meats, and dairy hang out like nutritional VIPs. Stick to the edges, and you'll dodge the ultra-processed center like a dietary ninja. Want to level up? Grind your own coffee beans, befriend your local farmers market vendors, and remember: every whole food purchase is a vote for a healthier food system.
  • Connect with Jordan on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on Skeptical Sunday, drop Jordan a line at jordan@jordanharbinger.com and let him know!
  • Connect with Jessica Wynn at Instagram and Threads, and subscribe to her newsletter: Between the Lines!

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0:00.0

Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. Today I'm here with Skeptical

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Sunday co-host writer and researcher Jessica Wynne. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the

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stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into

0:17.2

practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you.

0:21.6

Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker, and during the week,

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we have long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks, from spies to CEOs, athletes,

0:30.6

authors, thinkers, and performers.

0:32.6

On Sundays, though, we do skeptical Sunday.

0:34.6

We're a rotating guest co-host and I break down a topic you may

0:37.7

have never thought about and debunk common misconceptions. Topics such as why expiration dates are

0:42.8

nonsense, astrology, acupuncture, e-commerce scams, diet supplements, the lottery, ear

0:48.2

candling, and more. And if you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show,

0:52.1

I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on persuasion, negotiation, psychology,

0:58.2

disinformation, cyber warfare, crime and cults and more. It'll help new listeners get a taste

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of everything we do here on the show. Just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start or search for us

1:07.9

in your Spotify app to get started. Today, Fritos, figs, French fries,

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foie gras, and fondue. The line between what's real food and what's fake food is kind of blurry.

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What are we consuming at each meal? How can we unravel the tangled web of ingredients and intentions

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and consequences of the food we eat? From lab grown meats to artificial flavors, how do fake foods affect our health, environment, society?

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We are uninformed about the food we eat and the labels and marketing schemes make food all the more confusing.

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Writer Jessica Wynn joins me for a feast of knowledge and skepticism about fake foods.

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All right, bon appetit, everybody.

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