Be the right club.

Be the right club today.

Yes.

That's better than most.

How about him?

That is better than most.

Better than most. Better than most.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast.

Sali here.

Got a fun winter episode for you here.

Dr. Sasha McKenzie was a great guest.

The Science of Pudding podcast that we did last fall was a massive hit, one of our top downloads, actually, of Q4. So here's what I did. I pinged him, and I said, all right, we'd love to, you know, kind of ask you some winter training questions, some frequently asked questions. I pulled a bunch of people on our, on the refuge, some of our Ness members, what would you want to ask Dr. Sasha McKenzie? And I worked a bunch of those questions. I pulled a bunch of people on our on the refuge, some of our nest members. What would you want to ask Dr. Sasha McKenzie? And I worked a bunch of those questions into it on drills that can be doing, you know, a bunch of different things of how you can get better in the winter, how some technology factors in and the science of a lot of different things in golf. This was originally planned to be about a 20 to 30 minute hit that we were going to attack onto a sunday pod uh about halfway through recording this with him i said uh this is a full episode we're going to keep going and i'm sorry to take up more of your time than i originally asked for but uh there's just too much good stuff going on here we ended up getting on into into a lot of different things that i was not expecting me would get into but uh there's just a really, really, really interesting guy, a great source of knowledge. And I hope he can continue to have him back regularly on the podcast because he's got a lot of things to say about the game of golf. And I learned something every single time I talk to him. So as mentioned, we're going to talk a little bit about how to get better at the game of golf, some things that might help you in there on the equipment front.

One of those things is going to be the golf ball. Tour players say this all the time. It all starts with the golf ball. That's the one piece of equipment you use on every shot. Tidless gives golfers several ways to find the right ball model, including their launch monitor-based golf ball fitting app. It's a very efficient and accurate way to determine your golf ball model in just a few swings.

You can do indoor or outdoor with... monitor-based golf ball fitting app. It's a very efficient and accurate way to determine your

golf ball model in just a few swings. You can do indoor or outdoor with a certified fitter.

We also cannot overstate the importance of club fitting. If you're investing in new equipment,

you want to get it right. There's so much to dial in. Head models, hazel settings, weight

positions, lie angles, shaft weight, flex, length, wedge grinds, club gaping, descent angles. It's not just, it's just very unrealistic to try to go on that alone and get results. Again, some of the things I've learned in fitting I take with me and, and I would never try to reapply. I always want to get refit into clubs when we are getting, you know, new equipment because, you know, you can learn a little bit about it, but I have no idea how to apply this. I have no idea to get my descent angle proper between my five iron and six iron and figuring out where I should be transitioning in a combo set, all that stuff. Leave it up to a fitter. Go get fit. Check out the fitting locator at tidalus.com to find one near you without any further delay. Here is our discussion with Sasha McKenzie. All right, a bunch of great questions to get to. First one, I'm going to ask you. I'm very curious where your mind goes on this. What is the biggest myth you hear from either good players, not good players? The data simply doesn't support. I think we're,'re you know we've made our way past drive for

show put for dough in some capacities but what do you still hear out there that you just as soon as

you hear it say oh that's wrong something that uh you know i think it seems super intuitive but

the data doesn't support maybe even i kind of initially thought there's probably something

here is something called rate of closure. A lot of people would call it face stability.

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