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Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

111: Whoa!! A surprise episode??? For me??!!

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

Science

4.8791 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Wait, surprise is associated with a particular intonation!? Oh, you can see surprise by measuring electricity from your brain!? Hang on, some languages have grammatical marking for surprise!? In this episode, your hosts Lauren Gawne and Gretchen McCulloch get enthusiastic about surprise. We talk about surprise voice and context, writing surprise with punctuation marks and emoji, anti-surprise and sarcasm, and measuring the special little surprise blip (technically known as the n400) in your brain using an EEG machine. We also talk about grammatically indicating surprise, aka mirativity, and whether that's its own thing or part of a broader system related to doubt and certainty (spoiler: linguists are still debating this). Click here for a link to this episode in your podcast player of choice: https://pod.link/1186056137/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvMjIzMjQxOTY3OA Read the transcript here: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/803318354608783360/transcript-episode-111-whoa-a-surprise Announcements: New on Patreon: you can now buy a set of bonus episodes as a collection if you're not keen on signing up for a monthly membership. Collections so far include Lingthusiasm book club, Lingthusiasm After Dark, Linguistics Gossip, Linguistic Advice, Word Nerdery, and Interviews: https://www.patreon.com/cw/lingthusiasm/collections Patreon bonus episodes also make a great last-minute gift for a linguistics enthusiast in your life: https://www.patreon.com/lingthusiasm/gift In this month’s bonus episode we get enthusiastic about the mysterious Voynich Manuscript with Dr. Claire Bowern! We talk about We talk about what we can actually know about the manuscript for certain: no, it wasn't created by aliens; yes, it does carbon-date from the early 1400s; and no, it doesn't look like other early attempts at codes, conlangs, or ciphers. We also talk about what gibberish actually looks like, what deciphering medieval manuscripts has in common with textspeak, why the analytical strategies that we used to figure out Egyptian hieroglyphs from the Rosetta Stone and Linear B from Minoan inscriptions haven't succeeded with the Voynich Manuscript, and finally, how we could know whether we've actually succeeded in cracking it one day. Join us on Patreon now to get access to this and 100+ other bonus episodes. You’ll also get access to the Lingthusiasm Discord server where you can chat with other language nerds: https://www.patreon.com/posts/144558456 For links to things mentioned in this episode: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/803318024765603840/lingthusiasm-episode-111-whoa-a-surprise

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics. I'm Lauren Gorn.

0:23.5

And I'm Gretchen McCulloch. And today we're getting enthusiastic about surprise,

0:28.0

from how languages express the concept of surprise to what surprise looks like in the brain.

0:32.8

But first, if you've been intrigued by the idea of our many bonus episodes but aren't sure about

0:40.7

committing to another monthly subscription, we've now made a few of the most popular bonus episode

0:45.0

into collections that you can buy as a single one-time thing. These collections are so fun.

0:51.4

We have Linkthusiasm Book Club for all of our book-related bonus episodes,

0:55.9

linguistics gossip for all the behind-the-scenes episodes, fun word nerd topics like Onomatopoeia

1:01.3

and Pankrams, linguistics advice, and my personal favourite, Linctusiasm After Dark, for our episodes

1:08.2

about swearing, the language under the influence, and the linguistics

1:11.5

of kissing, and the weirdly soothing Lingthusi ASMR episode that we've recorded of us reading

1:17.9

example sentences in a very calm voice. If there are any other bonus episodes that you'd

1:24.0

like us to put in a collection, let us know. This feature is still pretty new and experimental, so we're interested in hearing how it goes for people. Also, this is a reminder that we have gift memberships. So if you're looking for a last-minute gift idea for yourself or someone else, you can get a year's subscription to our bonus episodes for a person in your life and help keep the show running? Combining the previous two features,

1:44.9

you can also gift one of the collections of someone else if you want to give someone a one-time

1:48.4

gift. Our most recent bonus episode was an interview about the mysterious

1:52.1

poignage manuscript with Claire Bowen. Is it a centuries-old hoax? Go to patreon.com

1:58.0

slash enthusiasm for collections, giftingifting and all of the bonus episodes.

2:14.4

Surprise, Gretchen, it's a party for you and there are are balloons coming from the ceiling, and I've made you a cake.

2:20.9

Wow, amazing. I'm so surprised. Not least because it's not my birthday. And I'm in Australia and you're in Canada.

2:30.4

Yeah, well, there's that too. And because we scripted this whole thing to introduce our

2:34.4

episode on surprise. Look, let's not quibble too much. Let's talk about a few other things you could

2:41.3

say if you are surprised. Okay, sure. Like, my, how sparkly these balloons are. Bit of a throwback.

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