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The Tim & April Show

111. What conservatives get wrong about deconstruction and progressive Christianity

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

News Commentary, Politics, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

This week our hosts Tim Whitaker and April Ajoy critically analyze Alisa Childers' views on progressive Christianity, exploring theological differences, political implications, and the impact on LGBTQ+ communities. They challenge fundamentalist narratives and advocate for a more compassionate, historically informed understanding of faith. Chapters 02:14 Tim's critique of Alisa Childers' views 07:18 Understanding the core of progressive Christianity 16:38 The triangle of theology, ethics, and politics 32:37 Sin, redemption, and social justice 42:24 Misconceptions about biblical views on sexuality 55:38 Christian nationalism and social justice 01:06:25 The influence of political power in faith 01:12:20 The importance of contextual biblical interpretation 01:16:24 The subjective nature of biblical authority ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a new evangelicals production.

0:13.2

The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

0:22.3

What's up, friends?

0:23.4

Welcome back to the show.

0:24.5

I am Tim Whittaker.

0:26.3

I'm April O'Joy.

0:27.7

Today we're going to be doing a response video to, I would argue, maybe one of our oldest

0:33.9

nemesis, Elisa Childers.

0:37.4

Why would you say that?

0:39.6

Elisa has been on the warpath against progressive Christianity for years now.

0:45.2

She was one of the biggest people.

0:47.2

When the whole deconstruction explosion happened and, you know, I started TNE and you

0:52.0

were doing your stuff, Elisa was one of the people out there who was like, progressive Christianity is a false

0:57.7

gospel.

0:58.3

She wrote a whole book about it.

1:00.1

And then him, her and another friend of hers, Tim Barnett, wrote this book.

1:05.8

It's called The Deconstruction of Christianity, what it is, why it's destructive, and how to

1:10.5

respond. And you can see, I tabbed it's destructive, and how to respond.

1:11.3

And you can see I tabbed it.

1:13.7

I have a feeling it doesn't actually tell you what it is, honestly.

1:18.5

Yeah, I mean, I have covered that book extensively on the YouTube's in the podcast.

1:24.2

So people can go through the archives to find it.

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