A spontaneous and unrehearsed interview.

Uh, hello, and welcome to the 110th episode of Curiosityness.

I'm Travis DeRose, the host of Curiosityness. And this episode, we're learning how the hell baseball happened. So I have on

Thomas Gilbert. He's the author of a book called How Baseball Happened. And this is the best

subtitle ever. Outrageous Lies Exposed, Exclamation Point, the True Story Revealed. So I'm not even

a huge baseball fan. I like to go to a couple games and watch it

occasionally and I like to play baseball, but that's about it. But this is a super fascinating

history story, origin story. And I think you're going to like it even if you're not super

into baseball or have it, not at all, because it's more of a history story.

But there's kind of a few things where a story was totally fabricated.

It's totally fake, made up by Spalding sports equipment guy.

And there's other stories that may have some truth and things. But there's weirdly like multiple stories of how baseball happened. And even the MLB today is saying

something that may not be true, but, uh, me and Tom here get to the bottom of it. So Tom tells us,

you know, why these stories are in existence and kind of what actually happened. And it's still a

good story. It's a good story.

So let's just get into the episode, and Tom is going to tell you exactly the history of baseball and how it happened, but then there's all kinds of going pro and different leagues,

and there's a whole bunch to it.

So it's fun.

Here's the episode 111 with

Thomas Gilbert right now. All right. We're going. What's up, Tom? How are you doing, man?

Excellent. Excellent. Good, good to have you on. A little behind the scenes rough start for us,

but I think we're all good now, so I appreciate you working with us there. But man, excited to talk. I mean, I got to start off in preference

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