You're listening to Nathan Chansky, and this is the Passion with Purpose podcast.

Hello to all you creators, dreamers, and doers out there. I'm Nathan Chansky, photographer, business coach, and your host.

After starting my photography business and nearly giving up after a rough first couple of

years, with God's help, I transformed my business and became the multi-six-figure business owner

here with you today. I'm here to drop weekly episodes full of everything I've learned in the

process while bringing on some of the biggest experts in the industry. This podcast is for photographers,

creatives, and anyone wanting to build a business

and life of your fullest God-given potential. Welcome to the show, my friend.

All right, welcome back, everybody, to the show. I'm so excited for a guest today because I have

Joe Bian on the show today, and he is an SEO specialist and just like an

expert in all things SEO. And I've had kind of like a little mini relationship over the past,

like, I don't know, six months is when you first reached out with Joe in my business blueprint

coaching program.

And he has been able to give my students so much help with SEO as a specialist.

And he's going to be in the more like course group coaching format of the business blueprint

as well. I'm going to be teaching SEO in there as well.

So, Joe, for those that might not know you, give a little background on kind of like who you are,

how you got into SEO at all, maybe why you got in it, all that good stuff.

Yeah, so I was working in hospitality. So I used to run a restaurant.

I was the general manager. And during COVID, I went from working about 80 hours a week to about

110. And that was not good for my health or my marriage. No. So I knew I needed to get out of that, but I didn't really know what I wanted to do.

So I tried selling insurance for a little bit and didn't have a passion for it.

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