In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder.

Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children.

Listener discretion is advised.

Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and I'm joined by my colleagues.

Angela Serser. Susan Costler Drew. And Bob Drew.

Angela, Susan, and Bob are also retired FBI agents, and we work together in the FBI's

behavioral analysis unit. So before we get started, I just want to remind listeners that we have

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So back in July, we released a two-part series on profiling Brian Coburger,

relying largely on the facts presented by the prosecution at the change of plea hearing for the murders of

Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonzalez, Zana Kernodal, and Ethan Chapin for University of Idaho students.

Since those episodes aired, hundreds of pages of official investigative reports and documents have been released,

and we've received several requests to revisit the case based on this newly available

information. So that's what we're doing. And last week, we continued our discussion from

our first two parts. We did a part three last week. Today we'll

wrap things up, making this a four-part series on profiling Brian Coburger. And as I mentioned,

one of Angela's areas of expertise is in-cells and the in-cell community. And we left off with

her explaining what an in-cell is.

So I'd like to pick back up right there.

Okay, so Koeberger, well, first of all, I should point out, too, that investigators have

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