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We Can Do Hard Things

111. Natalie Portman: How to Know When to Say YES

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

1. The moment Natalie called Abby to invite her to be part of Angel City FC–the first majority, women-owned soccer franchise. 2. How to stop people-pleasing and learn to recognize a full body YES from inside of you. 3. Why and how Natalie shows up for big projects before she’s ready or qualified. (Dude Moves). 4. The best advice Natalie’s ever received–and why women should “Gossip Well.” 5. How Natalie counters gender expectations by over practicing empathy with her son and decisiveness with her daughter. 6. What Natalie says when a man suggests a woman is “crazy” or “difficult.” About Natalie: Natalie Portman is an Academy award-winning actress (BLACK SWAN), director, author, and activist. In Summer 2022, Portman will be hitting the big screen, returning to the Marvel universe as ‘Jane Foster’ in THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER. Previously Natalie appeared in Pablo Larraín’s film, JACKIE, in which she starred as First Lady Jacqueline F. Kennedy. For the role, Portman was nominated for an Academy Award, a Golden Globe, a Screen Actors Guild Award, a BAFTA Award, and won the Critics’ Choice Award. She wrote, directed, produced, and starred in A TALE OF LOVE AND DARKNESS, which made its world premiere at the 2015 Cannes Film Festival and its North American premiere at the 2015 Toronto International Film Festival. Other past film credits include Noah Hawley’s LUCY IN THE SKY, Brady Corbet’s VOX LUX, and Alex Garland’s highly anticipated second feature, ANNIHILATION. Natalie and her producing partner Sophie Mas recently inked a first-look TV deal with Apple TV+ for their production company MounatainA. Through this deal, they are producing the Apple Original limited series LADY IN THE LAKE, which will be Natalie’s TV acting debut. Natalie’s other past production credits include the documentary EATING ANIMALS, which she executive produced and narrated. The film examines mankind’s dietary choices and is based on Jonathan Safran Foer’s memoir. In addition to her film work, Portman devotes her time to several humanitarian causes, with an emphasis on supporting women and girls. She is also a founder of National Women’s Soccer League team Angel City Football Club. In Fall 2020, Portman released her debut picture book, NATALIE PORTMAN’S FABLES, which is a New York Times’ Bestseller. Portman is a Harvard graduate with a degree in psychology and studied at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. IG: @natalieportman To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome, friends. Back to we can do hard things today. My boss is here. Yes. Abby's boss is he's gonna call her boss. Oh, that's right. I was like me. I know that's what I thought me. Obviously I'm here. No.

0:26.0

Natalie Portman. She's Abby's boss because she's the big boss of Angel City. She's big boss. Yeah. The soccer team. Yeah. Angel City. Of which Natalie Portman is the big boss. Yeah. You're a little boss. I'm little boss. She's big boss. Yeah. So big boss is here today. Natalie Portman. Natalie Portman is an Academy Award-winning actress, director, author, and activist this summer. Portman will be on the big screen returning to the Marvel Universe as Jane Foster in Thor. Love.

0:56.0

Natalie appeared in Jackie in which she starred as First Lady Jacqueline F. Kennedy and was nominated for an Academy Award, a Golden Globe, a Screen Actors Guild Award, a BAFTA Award, and one, the Critics Choice Award. Portman devotes her time to several humanitarian causes with an emphasis on supporting women and girls. She's also a founder of National Women's Soccer League Team Angel City Football Club Woot. Woot. Woot. Her book, Natalie Portman's

1:26.0

Fables is a New York Times bestseller. Portman is a Harvard graduate with a degree in psychology, and she studied at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Natalie, welcome to We Can Do Hard Things. We wanted to start with the story about Abby's speech at Times Up and your reaction to it, and how that played into your formation of Angel City. Can you just tell us that story from your perspective?

1:55.9

Well, thank you both for having me on. I love you both so so much, and you both added so much to my life already, so I'm so grateful to know you. I can't believe I know you as well as have you as my role models.

2:11.9

But I think there's an even earlier Abby Influence story on Times Up that you might not even be aware of, was that your Wolfpack speech at Barnard was circulated among all the women very early on, and everyone started calling us like each other, Wolfpack, within our group in Times Up.

2:36.9

That was probably why they wanted you to speak in the first place at our conference. That was already so influential and impressive, I think, just as just a way of thinking of other women and a new way of operating with other women.

2:58.9

I think after having been socialized for so long to see competition and different kinds of modeling of behavior between women, a way that we could compete together instead of against each other, was pretty exciting.

3:16.9

And then when I heard you speak, and we all heard you speak at the Times Up conference that year, it was mind-blowing to hear your experiences as Virtuoso star, best athlete in your field in the world, and your experiences when you retired of being uncertain about your future.

3:45.9

And how different that was for your male counterparts, and to understand that this very central cultural field, athletics, I guess, in general, could be.

3:56.9

So have such different valuing of male and female players really just blew my mind and really started me and a lot of other people thinking.

4:08.9

So anyway, thank you again for that. I said it before and I'll keep saying it forever, but it really changed so many of the way many of us have looked at the world.

4:20.9

And then two years ago, I get this random IG direct message from Natalie Portman, folks, she says, can I call you and I'm like, yes, Natalie Portman, here's my number.

4:34.9

And so then you call me and then you told me two years ago, and this must have been a year-ish later since the Times Up event.

4:43.9

And you tell me that you're starting Angel City FC in Los Angeles and you asked me to be a part of the investor ownership group and I just was floored.

4:52.9

I was so beyond and I just think it's so important for people to understand though that this is the first majority women own soccer franchise for girls, obviously, and women.

5:04.9

You also started it for boys. Can you tell us about that?

5:08.9

Yeah, well, my son, who's 11 now, was an incredible influence and inspiration and wanting to create this.

5:21.9

He got so into the women's world cup, I think he was around seven or eight, and he had the experience of being nice.

5:29.9

He was like five or six at the men's world cup when France won my husband's French, so it was like the greatest thing that could ever happen to a French child.

5:39.9

And then a couple years later, the US women, when the women's world cup, and I mean, it was waking up in the middle of the night, all hours.

5:49.9

And I had to confront my own bias because the first time I saw him put on a women's game, I was like, oh god, he's going to realize it's a women's game because it was all on, I think it was like fubo or something that has like all the soccer games.

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