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Music Hello and welcome back to Surf Splendor.

This is David Scales, your host as always.

And as promised, I'm bringing you an episode today with Derek Riley and Chaz Smith of BeachGrit fame.

BeachGrit.com is their website.

Ultra Hard Surf Candy is the tagline.

If you haven't been, you definitely need to check it out.

It's really, really entertaining and a cool website.

And they're both writers.

They come from a writing background.

Derek established stab magazine.

I think in 2004, 2005, he details that in this episode.

But what they're offering with Beach Grit is really new and unique in the surfing world.

And I'm a big fan of it.

So we get into that and the reason behind launching it and where it's going and all that sort of stuff in this episode.

But before we do, we actually just kick off talking about hot topics.

So their bios and kind of intros will come later in the episode.

And in fact, Chass Smith actually has been a

guest on this show in the past. He had him on last year when he introduced his book, Welcome to Paradise,

Now Go to Hell, which also highly recommended read takes place on the North Shore, documenting just a lot of

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