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Joining me now is Thomas Frank. Tom Frank is perhaps best known for his book What's the Matter

with Kansas and his latest book Listen Liberal or whatever happened to the party of the people.

We talked with Tom about that book when it came out, but there have been a lot of developments since

then. So first of all, Thomas Frank, thanks for joining us.

It's my pleasure.

Secondly, I should tell you, you know, there's been so much going on with the Democratic Party now,

and it's been so interesting to watch a playout that I did want to get your perspective on it,

because it seems as if every day we see another story of a power shift or debate within the Democratic

Party. I certainly see every hour, every minute on social media, the kind of combat going on

between the forces of what might be called centrism or the nobomber wing of the party,

loosely might be called the Sanders or a left wing of the party, and you've been saying for a

long time, especially in your latest book Listen Liberal, that the party has become a party of the elite.

Do you feel that that is being borne out or challenged or both by the events that have taken

place since the Trump election?

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