#1105 - The Moral Madness of Atheism
The Counsel of Trent
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🗓️ 8 December 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | In today's episode, we're going to talk about the best moral argument against atheism. |
| 0:04.3 | And to help us do that, I've asked non-theistic PhD candidate Joe Schmidt for Majesty of Reason |
| 0:09.5 | to review today's script to make sure all the philosophical ground is covered properly. |
| 0:14.3 | First, we have to remember that just as there is no single cosmological argument for God's existence, |
| 0:19.5 | an argument from the origin of the universe, there is no single moral argument for God's existence, an argument from the origin of the universe. |
| 0:21.6 | There is no single moral argument for God's existence. Instead, there are a collection of |
| 0:26.7 | arguments that all agree there is something about morality, good and evil, right and wrong, |
| 0:31.2 | that points to the existence of God. And because of this, you're going to have better and worse |
| 0:36.3 | arguments. The absolute worst arguments |
| 0:38.8 | are usually Reddit level summaries that most Christians don't even use. These are arguments like |
| 0:44.2 | you can't be good without God or you can't have morality without God. But the moral argument is |
| 0:50.6 | not saying belief in God is necessary to act in moral ways. That's a bold claim, |
| 0:55.6 | given that there are many people who don't believe in God that still act in moral ways. The argument |
| 1:00.7 | would be better rephrased, you can be good without God, but you can't have good without God. |
| 1:07.7 | That way we move the focus away from personal conduct and towards the strange |
| 1:11.8 | properties associated with morality. The moral argument is also not making the simplistic |
| 1:16.4 | claim that it's impossible to have morality without God. Setting aside questions of ontological |
| 1:22.8 | existence, you can have morality without God in the same way you can have football without God. Morality would |
| 1:29.9 | just be a series of mutually agreed upon rules to make the game of life more enjoyable for everyone to play. |
| 1:35.3 | A better summary would be that the moral argument claims you cannot have objective morality without God. |
| 1:41.6 | C.S. Lewis made this kind of argument famous in his book, Mere Christianity, |
| 1:45.3 | which was based on a series of radio addresses. These were meant for the common Englishmen during |
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