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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

1104: 2025 Birdies and Bogeys + Mike McCartin from National Links Trust

No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

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Sports, Golf

4.87.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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DJ, Tron and Soly have our final Sunday night pod of 2025 with a two part episode this evening. We start with a Birdies and Bogeys segment highlighting the biggest newsmakers and moments in 2025. Part two focuses on the news this week from the National Links Trust and the political involvement that could harm access to affordable golf in DC. Soly and TC visit with Mike McCartin - Co-Founder of the NLT - for the latest on the interactions with the White House and the mission and goals of the NLT.  Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠ Support our Sponsors: Titleist East Sands Golf Co. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro / Birdies and Bogeys 1:16:05 - Mike McCartin - National Links Trust If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Be the right club.

0:07.2

Be the right club today.

0:09.0

Yes.

0:10.2

Yeah, that's better than most.

0:15.7

How about him?

0:17.7

That is better than most.

0:20.1

Better than most. Better than most.

0:26.8

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no laying up podcast.

0:32.1

Sala here, final Sunday pod of the year.

0:34.6

We're going to be shutting it down for a little holiday celebration here shortly.

0:37.4

Joined by my guy, the clique himself, Mr. T.C. Hello, T. Ron. Hey, Sally. Apologies been in advance for my nasally voice tonight. I don't know if I'm allergic to the Christmas tree or what. I think I got you beat, but yeah, maybe just allergic to Jags being like a very legitimate team. Fair to say, I think, at this point. I don't know. Yeah, I'm waiting on Neil's apology to James Gladstone and Liam Cohen. Yeah, I'm blowing up my group text now while I can. It's fun at 114. DJ Pi is here as well. Hello, Mr. Pie, man. Hey, guys. I feel like I've been sick for about six months, and I finally feel like I got a clean bill of health.

1:12.6

Maybe you guys got some sort of rare, you know, Paulin down in Guatemala from your trip that I didn't get to go on when my heat went out of my house. But I don't know. That could be what's going on. We hit the rare five for five. all five of us went down this week and had varying,

1:28.7

various levels. So yeah, it was a great one. But we're on a show for tonight. We're going to do some birdies and bogeys from 2025. It's kind of like winners and losers. We just felt like losers was a bit harsh. Losers is tough. Some of these people are losers. Some of these people definitely deserve.

1:44.2

But we're not going to say that.

1:45.4

It's not what we're saying.

1:46.6

Yeah.

1:47.2

It's birdies and bogies.

1:48.6

Do not put those words in our mouths.

1:50.2

Highs and lows.

1:51.4

You call it whatever you want, you know.

1:52.7

A few odds and ends from the week, not the most newsworthy week, but then we have an interview

1:57.4

on the end here that I hope everyone sticks around for with Mike McCarton from the National Links Trust.

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