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You want to know about the Eucharist, you want to know about the person of Jesus, you want to know about the Bible, the sacraments, the moral life. It's all welcome here. 888-318-7884. Tom Nash, looking like he's in Rome because he's got a cool background today and making me pine for the city of Rome but told us he doesn't speak Italian.

He speaks a little bit of Spanish and then he and Edgar started going back and forth about Mexican television. And so this episode, because look at Tom and look at me, this episode of Catholic Answers will be called El Gordo y El Flaco. I, Tom, welcome to Catholic Answers Live.

Thank you very much, Sai, great to be with you on the feast of the presentation. It reminds me of our 20 answers book on the rosary since that is one of the joyful mysteries.

So, praise God with that little little promotional tie-in. Nicely done, Tom. Sell them books. All right, we're going to have to give away some 20 answers on the rosary. Tom Nash, the author of that book and other books as well, including what did Jesus do and the biblical roots of the mass.

Oh, I was going to say the biblical roots of the Bible. I knew I was not saying that. I was the biblical roots of the mass. I knew it was something. I knew it was something religious, but it wasn't the biblical roots of the Bible. That doesn't make any sense as a matter of fact.

The biblical roots would imply it's religious, right? Yes. You are, you're playing the role of El Flaco today. All right. Yes. I know El Gordo means the fat one, and I'm not going to call you that.

Flaco means the skinny one. I know. But I will say lean and mean. How about that? I don't care if you say El Gordo. I liked the world when you said things like fat and skinny and short and tall and not like vertically challenged and I don't know what the politically correct version of tall would be vertically accomplished.

He's a vertically accomplished person. I like all the old fashioned words. I don't like any of the new words, but that's just because I'm old and fat.

888-318-744 is the number. Triple 8-318-788-4. I love people say it. You're not old. You're only as old as you feel. First of all, then I am old. Second of all, it's not about your feelings. All right. Get over it. It's not about reality. Not about your feelings.

I love to say that to old people because they always like to say that to young people. Go ahead, Tom. I was going to say as well. I spoke to my dad, God rest his soul, but I was 30, 44, and he was 37. Excuse me. He was never happened. He was 44. I'd never happened. He was 81. I could do the math. I could do the math. He was 81. And I said, yeah, I'm starting to feel my agent. He just looked at me positive. You ain't seen nothing. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. It doesn't feel good to get old, but what you're getting is old. Let's not kid ourselves about that. We got a bunch of people online. You want to do some phone calls, Tom? Or just entertain ourselves with foolish conversation. All right. We'll go to Nick and South Dakota listening on real presence radio. Nick, we are very glad you are here. Thank you for the call. By the way, it's open form. You can call 888-318-788-4. Nick, go ahead with your question for Tom.

Okay. Thanks for having me on. Can you hear me? Very well. Yeah. I'm old, but I can still hear. My question is where does the tradition of taking a papal name come from?

This is interesting that you mentioned that and the church, you'll see it with religious life as well, Nick. And that is with regard to how people kind of like a new life.

It's a new life for them so that in that sense, we see this with religious life. And so it is with with with popes. But you know, they usually typically would say a do a name, a new name because again, it represents their the coming into a new life or new chapter in their service to the church.

And so this is what happened. This is why you see early on. Well, of course, for Peter's Peter. And I think the first ones we see in Linus and that's his name. I'm not to be honest with you certain who the first one to have a name other than himself.

But in terms of I think the whole sense of a new life and the whole sense, it's. Oh, yes. Also, I should say it's an unwritten custom that they wouldn't take Peter.

It's generally considered a matter of potential judgments for popes to not invite comparisons in that regard. But it's something that we see, of course, early on in the church. And I think it's to try to point out that they are taking on a new life.

And also that they are asking for the intercession of that patron as as a successor, Vicar of Christ.

I actually do know, Tom, the first one to start the tradition that lasted. That was Pope Mercuria. That was Pope John the second because his name was Mercurias.

And you see what I'm saying? Because of the whole the issue of being connected with the mythological God of Mercury and wanting to.

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