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No Stupid Questions

110. Why Is Angela Stepping Down as C.E.O. of the Nonprofit She Founded?

No Stupid Questions

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Are you a problem solver or an opportunity seeker? Why is it so hard to find a good leader these days? And could you be Angela’s next boss?

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0:00.0

These job descriptions suck.

0:04.1

I'm Angela Duckworth.

0:06.5

I'm Stephen Dubner.

0:07.5

And you're listening to those stupid questions.

0:11.0

Today on the show, why is Angela stepping down as CEO of the nonprofit she founded?

0:17.2

No one ever wanted to use my ideas and pay attention to me, but I don't want to do the hard work

0:22.4

of leadership.

0:26.0

Angela, I noticed that your email sign off has changed.

0:30.0

It used to say founder and CEO of Character Lab.

0:34.4

And now it says co-founder and chief scientist, you're no longer CEO.

0:38.9

Did you get demoted?

0:39.9

Have you been embroiled in an unforgivable scandal we should be talking about today?

0:44.1

Is there something unseemly that you therefore must know about immediately?

0:48.6

I'm sure there is.

0:49.6

I mean, there have been things afoot.

0:52.5

This is nonprofit that you know all about, Character Lab.

0:56.0

Our mission is to advance scientific insights that help kids thrive.

1:01.4

And you do that by producing research primarily or you do that by bribing children?

1:06.5

What do you do?

1:07.5

All we want to do is help the world's best behavioral scientists do more and better research

1:14.3

on kids and how they grow up in ways that are great.

1:18.3

So we're really in a way like stage crew for world class psychologists, also economists.

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