Hey folks, welcome to the Catholic Coaching Podcast. My name is Matt.

And I'm Erin. We are the Ingalls. We are the founders of Menonoy Catholic and we are here to talk

coaching in the Catholic world. Yes, where we teach people how to become students of their interior

life. And we also train and coach other Catholic coaches. So we're excited to have you with us.

Let's get started.

Welcome, guys. We are really delighted to bring a wonderful guest on here today.

I don't know if you guys have ever heard of her, but her name happens to me, Lea Dero.

Lea, welcome. Hey, how are you all doing? Good. Good. If you guys don't know who Lea Dero is,

I don't know. Maybe you've been living under a rock. These last 10 years.

But Lea is, um, she's just, uh, beautiful inside and out. We've had a privilege to get to know her.

This is our second interview with her. Actually, our first one, the sound quality was very poor.

You can actually go check that out on YouTube. Um, but, and you can still follow along,

because it was a wonderful and blessed conversation. And we put subtitles on it. Yes. Yeah.

Maybe just watch it on mute. Yeah. But we are so delighted to have her back. And so thank you,

Lea, for coming back and being so gracious and understanding tech difficulties.

Yeah, you're welcome. I'm excited that we just get to talk again. Like I said, our first

conversation was really great. It was so, it was wonderful. I really enjoyed it. And so, um,

I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of happy that there was a little bit of a glitch and it still

worked kind of, but that we get to chat again, because there's just a lot more that we can,

we can talk about. Yeah. God works all things for his purposes. We're here at Metanoid Catholic,

we're obsessed with people's metanoid moments. Those moments of conversion that are really like,

they're just so central to the drama of the human experience, right? Where you have those moments

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