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The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

11: Modestep's Josh on Wiley and the cynical music biz

The Andrew Gold Show (Heretics)

Andrew Gold

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.31.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Firstly, let me just say I’m delighted to have Josh Friend from internationally acclaimed Modestep on the show. He’s actually an old friend of mine – and certainly the most famous of anyone I knew growing up, and an extremely talented guy – it’s a great podcast, as he really speaks his mind and doesn’t mince his words. In the UK this week, a leading rapper known as the godfather of the grime sub-genre, Wiley (who Josh knows), went on an anti-Semitic tirade on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and wherever else he could get his message out. A tirade is being kind, as it was about as subtle as Mein Kampf; I don’t’ say that with hyperbole; the things he said had nothing to do with the typical criticism of Israel or Zionism, this was straight up, the Jews are slippery, the Jews are like the KKK, and the Jews need to be shot and killed. He called out for the ‘top Jew’ to come and speak with him, and he very nearly came on this podcast – but didn’t turn up to the Zoom meeting. Josh Friend is a musician, the main man of Modestep – look them up, you’ll know their tunes, really eclectic and original stuff. He has worked with Wiley, he knows him, he knows his character - and it’s a fairly damning report. But what’s fascinating about talking with him, is we get a look into where Wiley’s racism comes from. I'm upset this is overshadowing what would have been an interview more focussed on the music industry and Josh’s place within it, and the amazing work Modestep have done. But, I also feel lucky i was able to catch up with him at this time. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It was extremely narrow-minded, arrogant and ignorant, and that's always been my opinion of it.

0:06.3

Always. I know the upbringing that Wile he's had. I know the upbringing a lot of the grind scene have had,

0:10.8

and their facts and sources come from stuff their mate has told them while they're

0:15.8

coming over and sat sitting on the couch from open a joint and YouTube videos.

0:20.3

I'm about to go on a rant. Firstly let me just say I'm delighted to have Josh

0:24.3

friend from internationally acclaimed mode step on the show. He's actually an old friend of

0:28.9

mine and it's a great podcast as he really speaks his mind and doesn't

0:32.4

mince his words.

0:33.7

In the UK this week, a leading rapper known as the Godfather of the Grimes sub-genre,

0:38.4

Wiley, went on an anti-Semitic tirade.

0:41.2

A tirade is being kind as it was about as subtle as mine kampf. I don't say that with

0:46.2

hyperbole. The things he said had nothing to do with the typical criticism of Israel or

0:50.6

Zionism. This was straight up, the Jews are slippery, the Jews are like the

0:54.7

K K K K and the Jews need to be shot and killed. All things he said,

0:58.8

crawl out from under all your little rocks and come and defend your Jewish privilege now.

1:05.7

He called out for the top Jew to come and speak with him, and he very nearly came on this

1:10.5

podcast but then didn't turn up in the Zoom meeting. Things are very

1:15.1

different in the US and the UK regarding the Jewish race and it is a race if only

1:19.5

for the simple reason that if Hitler were here today, devout atheists such as myself would be put on the trains.

1:26.0

In the UK, there's been a steady move towards both the right and the left, where some of the more insidious anti-Semitism has been cropping up.

1:34.4

As famous scholar Helen Pluckrose explained in last week's podcast, the Jews have been kicked

1:38.7

out of the woke pyramid of minorities.

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