#11 - Mike Wilkerson | Kevin McCullough

The Eric Metaxas Show

Metaxas Media

Religion & Spirituality, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Christianity, News

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🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

At a Mar a Lago wedding for his friend Mike Wilkerson, President Trump suddenly walked into the reception, saw Eric, and told the bride and groom, “This is the guy who is going to get me into heaven.” The clip went ultra viral, and a wave of online critics accused Eric of failing to share the gospel in that moment. In this episode, Eric explains what really happened in the noisy, chaotic room, why he answered the way he did, and how the reaction exposed what he calls a growing Pharisee spirit and an idol of evangelism in the church. He also responds to a recent Tucker Carlson comment about Bonhoeffer and clarifies why Bonhoeffer acted as he did from a Christian ethical framework. Later, Eric talks with groom Mike Wilkerson about the wedding itself and then with Kevin McCullough about Christian Solidarity International and how viewers can help free real slaves in Sudan.

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

2:23 Trump Heaven Comment Explained

22:29 Mike Wilkerson Joins Show

25:21 Inside The Wedding Moment

34:08 Kevin McCullough Joins Show

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0:00.0	Hey there, folks.
0:00.8	Welcome to the show.
0:02.7	Wow.
0:04.4	Most of you probably are going to be familiar with what I'm going to talk about right now.
0:10.0	I...
0:11.1	Where do I start?
0:14.7	I had a very short conversation with the president of the United States the other day.
0:19.9	Yeah. with the president of the United States the other day.
0:28.2	It's pretty crazy.
0:31.0	Somebody who's been on this show many times,
0:33.0	my friend Mike Wilkerson,
0:35.3	you can find him at his website,
0:36.3	his website is Stormwall.
0:38.5	He's been a friend for many, many years.
0:47.3	He had a wedding, and it was at Moralago, because he lives down in Florida, and it was a smaller wedding.
0:47.9	It wasn't, you know, like 500 people.
0:49.5	It was like 100 people.
0:50.8	And it was really delightful.
0:55.7	And near the end of the reception, somebody said,
0:57.8	I think the president's going to show up.
0:59.5	I thought, what?
1:00.2	Why?
	...

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