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The Psychology Podcast

11: How “little bets” spur big creative successes

The Psychology Podcast

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Science, Social Sciences

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2015

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Award-winning author Peter Sims shares some heartening research on how people like Steve Jobs, Chris Rock and Frank Gehry use small experiments to lay the groundwork for big creative successes. It’s an encouraging episode for all the creative types out there thinking they have to have it all figured it out from the get-go. Also, Scott and Peter banter across a wide spectrum of topics including improving education, the empathy deficit in America, deliberate practice and the importance of marching to the beat of your own drummer.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast with Dr Scott Barry Kaufman where we give

0:04.7

you insights into the mind brain behavior and creativity. Each episode will feature a

0:09.4

new guest who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others, and the world

0:14.2

we live in.

0:15.2

Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

0:24.0

Oh, Oh, Today we have Peter Sims on the show. Peter Sims is the best-selling author, co-founder

0:39.7

of the Silicon Guild and founder of the B LS-H-P Enterprises, Inc.

0:47.0

His latest book is Little Betts,

0:49.1

how breakthrough ideas merge from small discoveries.

0:52.4

Thanks for being on the show, Peter.

0:54.0

It is a pleasure, truly.

0:56.0

And am I right in BLK-S-H-P standing for Black Sheep?

1:02.0

It is.

1:03.0

Yeah.

1:04.0

Maybe you can tell me a little bit about what in the world that is.

1:10.0

Black Sheep started because at Pixar they call people Black Sheep who challenged the status quo.

1:16.0

And it was inspiring to me to think that somebody at Pixar challenging the status quo was a pretty unique kind of an individual

1:27.4

unique sort of idea, this notion of a black sheep because you know having taken the author's path and the

1:34.8

creative path in life along with people who are friends who are social

1:39.6

entrepreneurs or writers or other artists.

1:44.0

You know, there's a sense that, hey, you know, taking that path of less travel by is kind of like being a black sheep,

1:50.0

but you can't do it alone.

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