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Hope they won't shoot me down soon. I'm Todd Macombus and I'm Jessica Noel and we are the investigators.

I'm Todd Macombus and I'm Jessica Knoll and we are the investigators.

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to move.

Welcome back to all our partners in crime. We hope you had a crime-free week and if you did not, we hope that everyone is okay and that you have the right investigators on the case.

And if you don't, reach out to us. That's what we're here for.

Just so everybody knows, we record these episodes way in advance so we never know exactly

when they're going to come out we have been to crime con and we've been back from

crime con for a little bit.

But I feel like I want to let everybody know

that we had an amazing time.

I put this on social, but I feel like this is my fourth crime con, and I think, hands down, this was the best that I've been to.

Absolutely, so I just want everybody to know if we met you there, we enjoyed so much meeting you.

For those of you that we already knew

and we got to see again, we loved seeing you again.

And for those new people that we met,

I just want to point this out. We passed out 1,500 swag bags, bags full of free

swag that had our logo and whatnot on it. And I don't think we've gotten all

1500 of you as regular listeners yet. So if you took a swag bag and you're

listening now and you know somebody else that took a swag bag and you're listening now and you know somebody else that took a

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