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11. Bonus Q&A with Mark Horgan and Patrick Radden Keefe

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BBC

True Crime

4.7797 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Mark is joined by the author of 'Say Nothing' Patrick Radden Keefe to discuss the making of 'Stakeknife' and also the television adaptation of 'Say Nothing'. They'll take your questions on both series and discuss the crossover elements between the two.

Credits

Reporter: Mark Horgan Produced and written by: Mark Horgan Co-Producer: Killian Down Composer: Michael Fleming Theme tune by Lankum Artwork by Conor Merriman Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioner for BBC: Dylan Haskins

Stakeknife is a Second Captains & Little Wing production for BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:16.3

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0:31.3

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0:37.3

So back in March

0:38.4

2023, when I was deep in production on Steakknife,

0:41.5

I sent an email to the author Patrick Radden-Keefe.

0:44.4

Patrick, as you may well know, wrote Say Nothing,

0:46.6

a book on the Troubles in Northern Ireland

0:48.1

that centred around the disappearance and murder

0:50.0

of Jean McComwell in 1972.

0:52.7

Although Steakknife gets just a few mentions in the book,

0:55.0

it was a piece of work that I really admired. Now, my rather vague email looking for some

0:59.4

perspectives on informers and the intelligence war, was met with a very kind response and lots

1:03.4

of encouragement. And Patrick told me that at that very moment in time, he was mailing from a cramp

1:08.2

bus that was racing to Sheffield to recreate the Divis

1:11.1

flats in Belfast. He just so happened to be mired in a pre-production of his own for a new TV

1:16.1

series that was out the following year, and that was the first time I heard anything about

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