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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

11/4/22 Douglas Macgregor on the Lost Opportunities to Leave Ukraine Better Off

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This week on Antiwar Radio, Scott talks with retired Colonel Douglas Macgregor about the war in Ukraine. From the beginning, Macgregor has been very critical of the Biden Administration’s myopic insistence on escalation. Now, it appears that a divide has broken out within Washington about how much further the U.S. and NATO can go. Scott and Macgregor discuss this evolving dynamic and reflect on all the missed chances for peace that would have left Ukraine with more territory and fewer lives lost. Now, with what appears to be a massive Russian offensive in the works, Macgregor says the west must put an end to the war as soon as possible.  Discussed on the show: “Playing at War in Ukraine” (The American Conservative) “It’s Time to Bring Russia and Ukraine to the Negotiating Table” (New York Times) “Will Biden Gamble on a Ukraine Coalition?” (The American Conservative) Scott’s interview with Lyle Goldstein Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot. Get Scott’s interviews before anyone else! Subscribe to the Substack. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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follow me on Twitter if you dare at Scott Horton show all right you guys on the

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line again I've got retired US Army Colonel Douglas

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McGregor, author of the margin of victory and regular writer at the American

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Conservative and from time to time at least at the Libertarian Institute as well.

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His latest attack is called a playing at war in Ukraine.

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Welcome back to the show Doug, how you doing, sir?

1:40.6

Very fine, thanks.

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Good, good. Appreci appreciate you joining us here today.

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I want to talk to you first of all about this article in the New York Times by Charles A

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Kupchen. He is from Georgetown University, the Council on Foreign Relations, and

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formerly the Barack Obama administration. And he wrote this piece in the New York Times called,

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It's time to bring Russia and Ukraine to the negotiating table. So first of all he makes some arguments, but second of all I

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