11/20/25: They found a way to hide the files anyway as Trump flips out
The David Pakman Show
David Pakman
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🗓️ 20 November 2025
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
-- On the Show:
-- Attorney General Pam Bondi refuses to answer questions on what the next steps for releasing the Epstein files will be, leaving the process uncertain
-- Trump is losing control over Republicans as his efforts to stop the release of Epstein files fail and MAGA lawmakers ignore his pleas
-- A PBS/NPR/Marist poll shows Democrats leading Republicans by 14 points with independents strongly favoring Democrats
-- Rep. James Comer admits that if an Epstein list does not exist, Congress may need to construct one to investigate potential law violations
-- HUD Secretary Scott Turner falsely claims undocumented immigrants can get mortgages while ignoring that federal law requires legal identification and residency for mortgages
-- Trump consistently reacts with anger, insults, and intimidation when challenged by female reporters, reflecting insecurity and childhood influence
-- Marjorie Taylor Greene publicly criticizes Trump for fighting the release of Epstein files, arguing he is tearing apart the MAGA movement
-- Trump makes exaggerated and incoherent claims about Jerome Powell, jobs, inflation, and Walmart Thanksgiving meals while speaking to the public
-- White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt calls the Epstein story a "classic Washington hoax" and gives awkward responses to personal questions
-- On the Bonus Show: Zohran Mamdani to meet with Trump at the White House, the DOJ is directed to sue states that pass AI regulations, the FHFA is considering three new mortgage options, and much more...
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(14:25) Democrats lead in poll
(22:49) Comer on creating Epstein list
(28:48) HUD claims on mortgages false
(36:49) Trump lashes out at reporters
(43:33) Greene criticizes Trump publicly
(49:58) Trump makes incoherent claims
(58:24) Leavitt calls story a hoax
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | It truly pains me to say we've predicted this, but Trump's people just all but admitted, |
| 0:07.3 | they're going to doctor the Epstein files, they're going to hold back the Epstein files, |
| 0:12.1 | ongoing investigation, blah, blah, blah. |
| 0:16.0 | And Republicans are already floating the idea of constructing. |
| 0:19.6 | That's their word. |
| 0:21.6 | Their own Epstein list from scratch. |
| 0:24.6 | This is exactly the set of excuses we said they would use and they're going to try to do it. |
| 0:30.6 | Meanwhile, as Trump tries to prepare for the potential impact of the story, he has lost |
| 0:36.6 | control of his own party. |
| 0:38.5 | MAGA lawmakers are ignoring him. |
| 0:40.7 | Survivors are speaking out. |
| 0:41.7 | Marjorie Taylor Green is accusing him of ripping the movement apart. |
| 0:45.4 | This is the first real break in MAGA. |
| 0:48.2 | And it's happening over the topic that Trump can't escape. |
| 0:51.5 | And then the new polls hit. |
| 0:53.6 | And they're devastating. Democrats have opened their |
| 0:57.0 | biggest lead in eight years. Independence are turning on Republicans by 30 plus points. Trump's |
| 1:04.5 | approval is sinking. This is the collapse he's been terrified of since coming back into office. |
| 1:11.0 | We've also, by the way, got an update where we have now raised almost $15,000 thanks |
| 1:18.4 | to you donated to Feeding America. |
| 1:21.9 | We're doing what we can to get food to hungry people. |
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