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We are joined by a former NFL offensive linemen.

He played 12 years in the league for the Patriots, the Lions, and the Jets. He won two Super Bowl

for the Patriots. He is an ESPN analyst now. He is Damian Woody. Damian, it is awesome.

Awesome, big dude, how you doing? Jim, I'm well, my friend. How are you doing? I'm great. I'm great.

It's great to see you. Thanks for doing this. Let me first start here, Damien. Since you finished your career with the Jets, why don't we start with that catastrophe? We'll get to the team breaking off GM Joe Douglas in a minute. But what did you make of that athletic report that dropped last night that had owner Woody Johnson wanting to bench Aaron Rogers after their loss to Denver and the coaches there not even knowing if he was

serious or not and having to talk him out of it, what was your reaction to that?

You know what, Jim, it's not surprising.

Anyone who's been affiliated with the Jets organization clearly knows that Woody Johnson, you know,

he might not be outwardly out there like that, but behind the scenes,

he does pull a lot of strings and really inserts himself in a lot of football operations.

And so when I saw the report up from the athletic that Woody Johnson wanted to bench Aaron

Rogers, honestly, it didn't shock me at all. It's stuff that I've heard many of the times before.

You know, that's what's shocking to me is that it's not shocking at all to you,

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