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60 Minutes

11/16/2025: The President's Pardon, Anthropic, Chess Boxing

60 Minutes

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4 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Correspondent Scott Pelley reports on President Trump’s pardon of Changpeng Zhao, founder of Binance, the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange. The pardon came shortly after Binance helped catapult the Trump family’s cryptocurrency firm, World Liberty Financial, into international recognition. The firm is a major source of the Trump family’s fortune. Correspondent Anderson Cooper goes inside Anthropic, a $183 billion artificial intelligence company that’s centered its brand around AI safety and transparency. At its well-guarded San Francisco headquarters, CEO Dario Amodei warns about the potential dangers of AI, and Cooper takes a look at how Anthropic is building and testing its AI models while openly acknowledging the risks. Brains meet brawn in the world of chess boxing, a sport in which competitors face off on the chess board and also in the boxing ring. Chess boxers win by checkmate or knockout – whichever comes first. Correspondent Bill Whitaker reports from the World Chess Boxing Championships in Serbia and meets Team USA as they go for gold. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Changping Xiao is a billionaire felon whose company enriched a Trump family business.

0:13.7

Months later, Zhao received a presidential pardon.

0:17.8

You would describe this pardon as unusual?

0:24.6

The influence that money played is unprecedented. Hello, everybody. The Trump firm, Zhao, helped, is a major part of the president's family fortune.

0:30.6

All of us, whether Republican or Democrat or independent, look at this system and say, this is a corrupt system.

0:45.7

If you're a major artificial intelligence company worth $183 billion, it might seem like bad business to reveal that in testing your AI models resorted to blackmail.

0:50.5

Why does Anthropic consider disclosures like that so essential?

0:58.0

Because you can end up in the world of like the cigarette companies or the opioid companies, where they knew there were dangers, and they didn't talk about them, and certainly did not prevent them.

1:03.0

Fighters from 18 countries are here, trying to knock each other's heads off.

1:11.6

There's the bell.

1:13.6

But wait, now the fighters strip off their gloves and play chess?

1:18.6

This is chess boxing.

1:21.6

Chess is battle on a board, and boxing is chess with my body.

1:25.6

So when someone combined those two, I was like, yes, here's what I was made for.

1:31.4

I'm Leslie Stahl.

1:33.1

I'm Scott Pelly.

1:34.4

I'm Bill Whitaker.

1:35.7

I'm Sharon Alfonci.

1:37.1

I'm John Wertheim.

1:38.3

I'm Cecilia Vega.

1:39.3

I'm Anderson Cooper, those stories.

1:42.0

And in our last minute, the empty rooms that can keep memories alive.

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